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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Just an update on the top cover. Even being Cerekote’d it didnt hold up to well, seemed to get a little soft and sank in some. my guess is from the fuel stand off. I havent had any printed oil breathers have issuses from the oil mist yet so i dont figure thats caused any issues with the intake top either.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

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Just an update on the top cover. Even being Cerekote’d it didnt hold up to well, seemed to get a little soft and sank in some. my guess is from the fuel stand off. I havent had any printed oil breathers have issuses from the oil mist yet so i dont figure thats caused any issues with the intake top either.


What filament? I've read PETG is pretty good with fuel. Haven't tried it yet though.

Might be a heat issue though.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

No regular filaments ive tried have held up well to fuel and ive even had some companies send me test samples to try out, also even in resin. So i just use PLA for the most part, it’s cheap and easy to just replace the part if it has a minor fail, not like the lid which was a major issue. Even though it was a major issue it wasnt a quick failure, i bet the lid made it about 500 miles and was still intact just softened it enough that the force of the wing nuts was dishing the lid.
It wasnt heat because i printed a type 3 oil breather out of PLA and its been on the vehicle at least 6 months and have been told its holding up fine. And that type3 breather is right on top of the engine in a short engine bay.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

32/36 velocity stacks


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Air filter is in bad shape, just a junk one i had laying around. But used to show the stacks still fit under the standard air cleaner for these. This carb had the chokes removed and these stacks wont work with chokes, but im going to see if i can make a set that does
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

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No regular filaments ive tried have held up well to fuel and ive even had some companies send me test samples to try out, also even in resin. So i just use PLA for the most part, it’s cheap and easy to just replace the part if it has a minor fail, not like the lid which was a major issue. Even though it was a major issue it wasnt a quick failure, i bet the lid made it about 500 miles and was still intact just softened it enough that the force of the wing nuts was dishing the lid.
It wasnt heat because i printed a type 3 oil breather out of PLA and its been on the vehicle at least 6 months and have been told its holding up fine. And that type3 breather is right on top of the engine in a short engine bay.


Available in CHEAP filament....nylons will be your best chemical resistance. As suggested in the last post....PETG works OK with straight ethanol but gasoline will eat it.

The big problem is that most nylon filaments I have seen are nylon 6. Although modern nylon 6 is better than the nylon 6 from back in say....the 60s and 70s....it still has moisture absorption that is too high for parts that will be around fuels and solvents.

If you can find nylon filament that is nylon 6.6 or "66" it's a lot better. For best moisture absorption you should use nylon 11. But nylon 11 and 12 are a bit lower I'm what they can handle in temperature. Nylon will start to distort around 200 to 225°F ....so those flat caps on the carbs you are making can start to droop at some point when it gets hot enough.

I would say a thin steel strap inside going side to side as a brace with holes for the threaded studs can fix that.

It's the problem with plastics. You find one with great chemical resistance....but then it's temperature stability or rigidity sucks. Find one that is stiff and rigid and it's chemical resistance sucks!

But there are some great "alloy" plastics out there that can do both. There are some alloys of polypropylene and nylon out there like Wellamid.

Or.....if you can find filament in PPS....polyphenylene sulfide.....it's just bad ass. Highly chemical proof. Very rigid. Very high temperature. Works with gasoline and oils and antifreeze.

It's what many of the water pump impeller in European cars are made of along with intake manifolds and valve covers. It is absolutely what you want to make carb hats from.

These guys have it. Others do too!

https://visionminer.com/collections/pps?srsltid=Af...VjPI5L#pps

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

So the problem with all of that is that the printer filaments are not the true plastic advertised , they are a blend ( from the research ive done and talking to filament manufacturers) so as a blend they lose the true plastic’s properties but it makes them “printable”. I tried printing quite a few things in polycarbonate which none held up to what true polycarbonate is supposed to. It had higher heat resistance than PLA but enough to really matter. I mean a 60-70F degree higher heat resistance was all, not worth the extra cost and difficulty in printing.
Think of it like the wood filaments, sure they have wood dust in them to give it wood like properties like color, texture, and smell as it prints. But its faaaaaar from being wood, its just woody PLA.

Now that doesnt mean that things wont progress and they’ll make better filaments, im sure they will, like BASF’s 316L. Which apparently the wife is getting me a new printer capable of printing that stuff but at $500 a roll, and still needing to be sintered, im not sure how much I’ll actually print with that, we’ll see though. I’m hoping they come out with a similar filament but aluminum instead of SS.

I really plan on casting most of this stuff anyways ( as long as i can learn it ) and am using the printer as a prototype machine as it was originally designed to be so most of all this is just R&D.
But honestly, a lot of the PLA has held up really well. I have a printed fountain thats been in our koi pond for nearly two years and has no issues at all. A couple printed bell siphons in outdoor aquaponics that have been there all summer, and several of the oil breathers that are in use and seem to be doing well. Also turbo hats thats seem to being ok too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Hi,

For anyone looking into rebuilding their fuel pump and needing the VW328d tool, here's a 3D printed version.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6840546

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Printed it with PLA, worked like a charm to help me rebuild my Pierburg VW14 fuel pump.

Have fun!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Printed some adapter centering rings to improve the fit of my Speedhut Speedometer in My 74 Thing.

I will post files on Thingiverse as soon as I can.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Today's Million Dollar Idea:

3D printed T- shirts. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Dusty1 wrote:
Today's Million Dollar Idea:

3D printed T- shirts. Very Happy

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Sorry man your too late, they already 3d print shoes and there are people / companies that have already started 3d printing clothing too
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Dusty1 wrote:
Today's Million Dollar Idea:

3D printed T- shirts. Very Happy

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Do you mean.....actually 3D printing the cloth.....or the design on the Tee shirt?

Both have been done long ago.

Yes, there are people/companies "3D" printing certain types of cloth but it's just an offshoot of the "non-woven cloth" industry. It's done to imparting a particular pattern for adapting and other layers of a process to the non-woven cloth.

Outside of a specialty ingredient part it has no real functionality as cloth (strength issue's, flexibility issues because it's not actually a weave etc.)

As far as 3D printing the image.....that started over 20 years ago with DTG which is "direct to garment" .....specially formulated inkjet that can make near photographic images on T-shirts and some other substrates in a washable formulation similar to standard plastisol ink.

Just in the past 3 years....this year especially.......DTF (direct to film) is blowing it out of the water. This is a digital print process to a receptor film with an applied powder adhesive. It is then heat pressed onto the shirt. Very fast for low quantity and cheap.

As for actual "three-dimensional" printing on T-shirts.....been around for decades. It's called "high density" screen printing. I have personally printed over 1/4" thick logos in depth. I have seen some crazy artistic examples over 1/2" thick with phenomenal detail. Ray
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

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Case clearancing guide for stroker crank
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Just ordered my Bambu Lab P1S combo. Looking forward to printing some VW parts. What are you guys using to scan things? I’m going to try and scan some 66-67 type 3 armrests and print them. I know I’ll have to do them in sections because they are bigger than the printer can print, but worth a shot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

haven't scanned anything, draw it up in cad program
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

I can do that. I’ll have to learn CAD and buy a CAD program.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Dusty1 wrote:
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3D printed T- shirts. Very Happy


that would basically be just like a knitting machine...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

Version 2 of the 32/36 velocity stacks. These work with the chokes still being in place. ( although the chokes have been removed from the carb in the photo )



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

swhitcomb wrote:
I can do that. I’ll have to learn CAD and buy a CAD program.


No need to buy a CAD program. Autodesk offers Fusion 360 for free if used for personal use. For most hobbyists this is more than enough to get started. I would also recommend Udemy.com to learn basic CAD for 3D printing.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 3D Printed Parts and Accessories Reply with quote

3D Printed Neiman Steering Lock Electrical Terminal Cover

I thought I would share a winter project I am currently working on.

I have multiple Neiman steering locks with the built in starter button that all have broken or missing bakelite electrical terminal covers. This is a part you really don't see from the driver seat, but makes all the difference when restoring / using one of these accessories. These terminal cover are often broken, cracked, or missing given the bakelite becomes brittle and sensitive over time.

Here is an original:

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You can see this cover is cracked in multiple locations and a previous owner attempted to glue it back together. It also gives you an idea of the profile, internal support pieces, and "Made in Germany" and model number scripts.

The first step was to model the part in CAD. With a pair of digital calipers, some angle gauges, and a lot of trial and error, I created a digital model of the part. I am not an expert in CAD and downloaded Fusion 360's free version for personal use and found a training course on UDEMY.COM to learn how to use CAD for 3D printing. It didn't take too long to figure things out and make something in CAD that was 99% accurate. Why not 100%? I made some changes to make it less prone to cracking or chipping, tightened up the sizing so its a better fit (the original is a little too loose), and increased the font size given 3D printers cannot print very small letters or numbers. I was also able to find some plastic-head thread screws to attach the cover to the steering lock that were very close to the original! Here are some renderings:

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As for 3D printers I use a Bambu Labs Carbon X1. I have used 3D printers by Creality in the past, and while much cheaper, are not easy to use unless you love to tinker with this tech. If you want a printer that just works out of the box get a Bambu Labs Carbon X1. You won't be disappointed.

I made multiple test prints using PLA and ABS filaments. My first attempts oriented the print so the top surface was printed on the base plate and the print built up from there. Like this:

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In this image the top of the part is faced down so the printer doesn't require any additional supports to print the object.

However, the part's placement on the print bed caused the rounded edges of the top surface to be less than perfect when printed. I got some slight deformation which I wanted to figure out if I could fix if I printed the part differently. So I printed it upright and used supports. Like this:

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This produced a better print at the top surface edges, but created problems on the inside of the print and didn't produce a clean edge for the wire terminal openings.

I then tried different print angles and support types, but each produced its own set of problems. In the end I decided to go with the original print orientation (top surface on the print bed), and figured I would fix the edges during prep and paint work.

Here are few picture to better explain what I am talking about:

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I printed a lot of samples in different materials. I think for the final print I will use ABS given its more heat resistant and won't warp if it gets too hot in the car.

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This gives you an idea of how the print turns out due to the print orientation. The prints with the clean lettering and numbers are due to the print being made with the top surface on the print bed. However, what is challenging to see in the photos are the poorly made curves where the top surface transitions into the walls of the part. The parts with the rough lettering are due to prints that used supports. The script is still readable, but is poorly rendered due to interference from the supports. However, the walls and curves are perfect and need little finishing work. In the end I decided to go with the less than perfect curves near the top surface and clean lettering given I plan to finish these parts in primer and paint to match the original. A little sanding work will clean up the curves / edges and will give me a better looking part overall.

Any suggestions on ways to possibly overcome this dilemma is welcome.

Ill upload the final painted part when I'm finished.
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