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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Silverfish? Reply with quote

Anybody heard of one of these? What is special about the seating? Just the headrests?

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm, other than being silver, and a couple of dealer options like mudflaps, chrome package, rear jailbars, and some door protection strips down the sides I can't see what's so special about it. It looks nice, but my '79 transporter that I had also had a rear bench and a middle seat too.

15,000 pounds is $27,400! Shocked Hope he gets what he wants for it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a dealer special edition to me- I suspect its not that common because they were used to push sales just before the Vanagon came out. Seems a lot for a late bus, especially with a repaint. I'm sure he'll get what he wants for it as UK prices are ridiculous at the moment. Extra's with the dealer editions came as a stick on type kit- they were doing the same with the Beetle too just before the Rabbit, not nearly as rare as the price would suggest, but probably not produced for UK or US market.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a factory special editon. Like the Champagne Edition. It had its own paint code, 4991.
Scroll down the paint list here:
http://www.type2.com/m-codes/t2colors.html

Here are the order codes:

S723 Champagne I - 1977 Champagne Edition I exported only to USA. Available only as 7 seater microbus
S765 Champagne II - 1978 Champagne Edition II exported only to USA. Available as 7 seater microbus or Westfalia Campmobile
S766 Silberfisch - 1978 Silberfisch made from approximately 4/1978 until 11/1978. Only sold in West-Germany and only available as 9-seater.

Now, I have a problem with that middle seat. It stuck me odd that it was missing the armrest pad. But then I thought..... wait a minute, that is a 2/3 seat. The Silverfish came special because of the seating. Even the seller in that ad stated that! To be a 9 seater, it will need to be a non-walk thru with a full middle seat. And the middle row right pic definitely shows bucket seats. Unless 2 people were sitting on 2 others laps, right now that bus is a standard 7 passenger.

That is all I can tell you about it.......
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you find the model numbers on the bus? I have both a Champagne I and a Champagne II westfalia but can't find those numbers anywhere.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where do you find the model numbers on the bus? I have both a Champagne I and a Champagne II westfalia but can't find those numbers anywhere.

Justin

Check the Mcode plate, up underneath the dash on the driver's side. It will have all the option codes.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a m-code plate from a 77 CE 1:

72 123 917
4803K2 D09 027 246
12 5 7170 UA 2218 61


72 means it is a 77 type 2

123917 is the vin

4803 is paint: L86Z agata brown sales campaign (Mcode S723)
chassis nr. 2x7 2118 500 - 2x72 300 000 (1977)

K2 is parchment cloth

12 5 is the date it was built, 12th week of 77 [3rd week of March] and 5 is Friday

D09 is ???

027 is Compliance with exhaust emission standards
M 157/M 251 California
F 214 2032 477

246 is ???

7170 is ???

UA is USA, port: ??? California

2218 61 is 221 Micro bus, 7 seater, sliding door right, LHD and 8 61
is 70 hp engine with manual trans.


As you can see, even though S723 does not show up in the m-codes, it shows up in the special paint.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow- I was right about it being Euro only! I will do the M-Code chck pon my bus tomorrow, I never knew there was so much information on there. Can you get a picture of one to help in findiong it?
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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15,000 pounds is $27,400! Hope he gets what he wants for it


the pound is just really high right now, about 1.8 to the dollar...it used to be about on par with the dollar which might make the price seem more reasonable.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew about M codes,
May be the silverfish pushed me into looking into it.
Well, nothing I did not know.
Obviously I have a orange US Wesfalia campmobile.

BUT BUT BUT
I was thinking: Every year had a specific color.
Too cool to be right,, but:
Is there a skeem..I said to my girlfriend: Orange is fo 64 74 84. Help....Tell me what Bs I can tell her.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devon-Dyno-Soar118 wrote:
Wow- I was right about it being Euro only! I will do the M-Code chck pon my bus tomorrow, I never knew there was so much information on there. Can you get a picture of one to help in findiong it?


The link about the paint code shows a m-code plate:
http://www.type2.com/m-codes/t2colors.html

and if you click on the link in the top left of the link I sent, you will find this: http://www.type2.com/m-codes/index.html
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIlverfish? I see those all the time. . . they're not rare. Wink I can ship you a few if you like, but most people don't like them.

http://www.ext.vt.edu/departments/entomology/factsheets/silverfi.html




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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found it today- ran out of time on secifering it. My bus has all its stickers so the paint code was still visible but all the other stuff was interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"INTERESTING FACTS: They can go for up to one year without food."

Sounds like the subject of another grocery store checkout lane tabloid cover of a new weight-loss fad... "Fat Chick goes on the 'Silverfish Diet' and drops 400lbs. Only craves Elmer's Glue once a year!"

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, no relevant information so far, except Karl (thanks!).
Really guys, I think I've found one, it is covered in another color but you can still see the silver paint inside, the blue interior, the right number of seats, chrome bumpers and stuff but I want to identify him as being part of that 1,600 cars that was made for celebrating the ending of t2 production.
Is not in a best condition and the seller is decided to scrap him if he is not taking the asked money (not cheap). If it is a silverfish worth to pay the money to the guy and take the bus from there. Might be one of the few remains....

Please, drop here whatever you think that can help me identify. Could be ads, brochures, posts, whatever you consider that might help.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, the M plate riveted on the top of the LH fresh air duct just inside from the signal light has the answer, if the codes include S766 and there's a 6 digit number starting with 4991 on the bottom row in the middle it's a silverfish.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oki, really nice, thanks busdaddy!
I'll try tomorrow to get there and check the information.

Searching the information about the difference between kombi and microbus I've found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_2. After reading the article I didn't realise on spot that I know a silverfish. Only after half an hour i've done the connection (slow brain).

I'll put here what I can remember now about the characteristics of the bus and hopefully I'll make some detailed pictures in a few days: chrome bumpers, late side-trim, sliding roof, blue velour with blue vinyl on the backside, type4 engine, about 170.000km (I have to check if are real), silver paint below the dashboard (the actual color is blue), little bit of perimeter rust but not something, ouch, I just remember that I have some pictures Very Happy. Let's see how I can attached them.

I guess with links is better.
Tell me what do you think.
Thanks!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubnoff wrote:

I guess with links is better.
Tell me what do you think.
Thanks!



the pics are a fail! try again, photobucket works best.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...I was there Smile
Now please take a look at the pictures ant tell me what do you think. Do we have a winner or not?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43807639@N04/4031261571/in/photostream/

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's not too bad, the plate you posted is the VIN plate and only tells the serial number, the M plate with the options is located just above that relay in the upper left corner of this pic.
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