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RAC400 Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2005 Posts: 35 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:53 am Post subject: Oil rings between case |
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Does anyone know if a 1970 1600 requires the o rings between the case halfs. I assemble my engine last night and did not install o rings that came in kit. Apprantly some engines require these o rings and some years do not. I am just not sure if mine requires them.
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79527 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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It needs them. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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RAC400 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I pulled the cases apart. and I do not see any sort of recess where these o rings may go. Does this mean I have a newer case? |
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turboblue Samba Member

Joined: October 09, 2003 Posts: 4216 Location: Central Indiana
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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The recesses are on the distributor half of the case. _________________ Gary
Turbo VW Sand Drag Buggy
"If you don't run into the Devil every once in awhile, you must be going in the same direction!" |
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RAC400 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am looking at the case halfs right now, and I do not see any sort of recess. Are they not typically where the 6 case studs are ? I thought I read some where that later year cases do not these recess. ??????? |
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turboblue Samba Member

Joined: October 09, 2003 Posts: 4216 Location: Central Indiana
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Actually the recesses are on both halves.
I'll get some pics up in a few. _________________ Gary
Turbo VW Sand Drag Buggy
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RAC400 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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If that is the case, then my case halfs do not have the recesses. Is it true that later model cases do not have these recesses???? |
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turboblue Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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RAC400 wrote: |
If that is the case, then my case halfs do not have the recesses. Is it true that later model cases do not have these recesses???? |
Brand new off the shelf magnesium case.
O-rings go around the 6 large studs and into the recesses at the base.
Other half of the same case.
I'm thinking you have a case that at one time took the sealing case nuts on the 6 big case studs and maybe didn't have the o-ring recess. _________________ Gary
Turbo VW Sand Drag Buggy
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Mad Manx Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 304 Location: Redondo Beach California
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you have a new CB Alum case and it will look like this.
with shuffle pins and no seal relief.
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RAC400 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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My case halfs do not look anything like the pics. There are no recess areas. How do I seal this. Sealing washer / nut. ???
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Droolman Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2003 Posts: 161 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:05 am Post subject: |
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do you have any way to post pics? _________________ 1967 blue bug
1965 drag bug |
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BigLoaf Samba Member

Joined: October 05, 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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sorry to hijack this thread but it reminded me of this. I was trying to take the o rings out of my case, and i found them to be EXTREMELY hard. I pushed on them with a screwdriver and they didnt budge or flex or squish or anything. My screwdriver eventually slipped and scratched the case and I decided to stop before I did something stupid. I figured they would be soft rubber but maybe im missing out on something. |
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RonR Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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BigLoaf wrote: |
sorry to hijack this thread but it reminded me of this. I was trying to take the o rings out of my case, and i found them to be EXTREMELY hard. I pushed on them with a screwdriver and they didnt budge or flex or squish or anything. My screwdriver eventually slipped and scratched the case and I decided to stop before I did something stupid. I figured they would be soft rubber but maybe im missing out on something. |
Well, heat does have a play in that shit. You might think about replacing those.
But getting back to the original question, that case is prior to "O" ring cases. If you try to put the "O"-rings on the main bolts, it will hold the center main open and will have really bad oil pressure. |
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timmy74006 Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2004 Posts: 151 Location: NE Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: |
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What do you do if your case has been shuffle pinned as in the example above?
Tim |
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RAC400 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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What years did the cases not have this sort of recess.?? The vw is a 70. Not sure on original motor or not. |
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Mad Manx Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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What do you do if your case has been shuffle pinned as in the example above? |
I just put a blob of Ultra Grey rtv under the washers when I bolt it
together, I never put any sealant on or around the main bearing journal
stands. Never had a leak.  |
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