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suntour Samba Member

Joined: November 25, 2004 Posts: 443 Location: Woodinville, WA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: Military headlight switch? |
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Does anyone have any information/pictures for the military style headlight switch? A source, part number or wiring diagram? _________________ Order of the Voodoo Spoon |
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bucko Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Here is a link to wiring diagrams for the military switch; just select your year from the "type 181" section.
http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/index.html
As to pictures, yes I have one, but it's on my PC so I cannot post it here without a URL (which I don't have). If you PMAIL me with an email address, I can send you that. As to operation, it works like this: there is a small round button in the center of the switch that you can press with a nail, or pen/pencil. While this center button is being pressed, you will be able to slide the square stop (located at the back of the main switch) to the left or right. Sliding this square "slider" to the left/right is how the switch activates either the military running lights or the "normal" driving lights. This square slider is what lets the main part of the switch operate the contacts on the left or right side of the switch.
Hope this helps. |
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suntour Samba Member

Joined: November 25, 2004 Posts: 443 Location: Woodinville, WA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bucko,
Thank you. That information was just what I needed. The wiring diagram helps too. I was looking for a way to turn on the normal headlights and a set of flood light with out a toggle switch on the dash.
Now comes the challenge of finding one. Time to call the relatives in Germany I guess. _________________ Order of the Voodoo Spoon |
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Al Capulco Samba Member

Joined: October 31, 2005 Posts: 549 Location: Northridge, CA.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I am in L.A. and have one. Let me know if your interested. |
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pjmacua Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: military headlight switch |
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Here is a picture :
Regards
Pierre-J MACUA
www.181spirit.com |
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bucko Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Coppell, Texas
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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That's the picture I had as well (thanks for posting pjmacua).
Now folks can see the the round center button, and the square block (pointed to by the arrows) that allow the switch to operate the left or right side settings. |
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beccom Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings to all!
I have the wiring diagram but does anyone have a chart that says:
When the front switch is on :
0 = Headlights and Park Lights
S1 = Just Parking Lights
1 = ?
2 =?
I have a 1971 Military THING with the military light switch shown above and I have the (2) Blackout lights in the Front and (3) Blackouts in the back.
I was able to turn the switch and have the (2) Front Blackouts lights turn on but nothing on the blackout lights in the rear. I have confirmed the blackout lights to be working since I provided direct 12V power and they do light up. I continue my troubleshooting but just curious if someone had this already. If nothing else....I will double wire the blackout lights to the headlight and running lights and to the switch position that I found that works on the switch......just for the kewl factor and be able to turn them on with nothing else.
Let me know
Thanks
Chris |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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Cool.
Must own one.
What does the rest of that sticker say? Something about "Don't turn the headlights and the heater on at the same time, or we'll all die!"? _________________
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pjmacua Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 199 Location: Cantal, France
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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| Fun 181 wrote: |
| What does the rest of that sticker say? Something about "Don't turn the headlights and the heater on at the same time, or we'll all die!"? |
Hello
It is often called the heater sticker :
- beim tanken heizung abstellen
- swich off heater before filling up
- avant le plein, arrêter le chauffage
| beccom wrote: |
| does anyone have a chart that says... |
Tag, 1 and 2 : driving lights
0, S1, S2 and S3 : black out lights
Regards
Pierre-J M. |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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| pjmacua wrote: |
It is often called the heater sticker :
- beim tanken heizung abstellen
- swich off heater before filling up
- avant le plein, arrêter le chauffage
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Thanks Pierre, I know. I was just trying to be funny.
Anyhow, I think that military switch will complement the new TOW missile launcher that I just installed. I have it aimed facing backwards... for tailgaters, obviously.
Humor... it's subjective.  _________________
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beccom Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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| beccom wrote: |
| does anyone have a chart that says... |
Tag, 1 and 2 : driving lights
0, S1, S2 and S3 : black out lights
Regards
Pierre-J M.[/quote]
Thanks for the response for the information. I just would like clarification:
Tag is basically off
1 and 2 are yes the driving lights. (1) is the blinkers and (2) are the blinkers with the Headlights.
Now...
0 again is basically off
S1 ...... I Dont know what this one is suppose to do
S2........ Turns on the Blackout lights in the FRONT
S3.........Turns on ALL the Blackout lights....FRONT and BACK. (I have 3 in the back but only 2 of them turn on) The one that is on the Engine Lid is connected to 54S on the switch shown on this diagram link below but does not turn on. I think its suppose to turn on when the switch is in the 1 or 2 position on the switch.....but that is what I want to make sure.
http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/181_M_63_from_August_1969-1.jpg
My 2 Question are:
...does anyone know what S1 is suppose to do?
......The Rear Blackout light on the Engine Lid.......when is that light suppose to turn on.....when I click it to position 1 or 2 or when I switch it to S3?
Thanks to everyone in advance for their assistance.
Chris |
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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member

Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1323 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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digging into my depot , i have found some nos , german parts for the thing , one of them was a NOS , perfect condition blackout switch ....anybody knows the real value of one of these ?? i have also found some windshield latches , still in their german og box ....
pm me if anybody is interested , please
Ricardo _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1958 convertible
1971 1302 convertible
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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77kafer Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2008 Posts: 846 Location: New Windsor, NY
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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[quote="beccom"]
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......The Rear Blackout light on the Engine Lid.......when is that light suppose to turn on.....when I click it to position 1 or 2 or when I switch it to S3?
Thanks to everyone in advance for their assistance.
Chris |
I really do not know, but I would venture to say that would be your blackout brake light. _________________ Supposed to be 77käfer, but there are no umlauts on an american keyboard
Overheard on 27 June 07, one lady to another when they saw my Harli in a parking lot at West Point, "maybe he found it on the clearance aisle at the Volkswagen dealer" |
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Nijyboy Samba Member

Joined: January 31, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Wellingborough, Northants, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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As far as I'm aware it is...
S1 = blackout braking light (is the middle blackout light in the rear)
S2 = front blackout lights
S3 = all blackout lights: 2x front, 2x rear and braking light
Hope this helps?
Nijyboy 1969 military VW181 |
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MANOR HOUSE Motorsport Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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I want to buy the switch.
Please send price in US Dollars
and address.
Thank you,
Bob Manor |
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MANOR HOUSE Motorsport Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Al Capulco wrote: |
| I am in L.A. and have one. Let me know if your interested. |
How much and where do I send the $?
Bob Manor |
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Sander 181 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2008 Posts: 16 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| S1 is the back blackout braking light, fitted on the engine lid. |
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Foxx Uncle Meat

Joined: August 27, 2001 Posts: 4897 Location: at the computer,.......DUH!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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take the buying and selling to PMs please. _________________ Frank
OG JHC
59 panel
Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupidity. i seem to use a lot. |
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strelnik Samba Member
Joined: October 01, 2010 Posts: 352 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: Re: military headlight switch |
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| Fun 181 wrote: |
| pjmacua wrote: |
It is often called the heater sticker :
- beim tanken heizung abstellen
- swich off heater before filling up
- avant le plein, arrêter le chauffage
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Thanks Pierre, I know. I was just trying to be funny.
Anyhow, I think that military switch will complement the new TOW missile launcher that I just installed. I have it aimed facing backwards... for tailgaters, obviously.
Humor... it's subjective.  |
Let me know if you need an inertial guidance and wire fine tuning unit for your tow, I am pretty sure I have a spare in the garage, or in the lab... _________________ L'audace! L'audace! Toujours l'audace! |
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Legion0514 Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2021 Posts: 5 Location: Houston
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Military headlight switch? |
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I know this post is old but I’m looking for pictures or guidance on how to
Actually run wires to the fuse box. Also, what kind of wires were used?
Thanks! |
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