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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: IRS Conversion Reply with quote

I currently have a swing axle which works fine but I am interested in converting to a IRS so.....
How much work is involved to do so?
Are there conversion kits out there?
How much would it cost me to do this conversion?
What are the advantages to an IRS over the swingaxle?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_to/IRSconversion/IRSconversion.htm
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this will help as well. I did this one a few years back.....

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/album91
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where might i go about purchasing the parts needed for the conversion? Or do I need to make all these parts from scratch?
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=304780

i beleive you have two choices, either weld in the whole torsion, or weld pivots onto your torsion. if you choose the first, this is all you need. if you want to weld pivots onto your torsion, you need to buy the pivots(moore parts, pac customs..) and get a jig to set it up
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8066506613

Would something like this work?
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would be better off with a bug rear torsion. There is no aftermarket support for the bus torsions so replacement or upgrade parts are hard to find.

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIP1, Moores, and a few others sell the pivot points for like $20. I think someone on the www.volksrods.com site sells the Jig to make it right for I think $65. ya the bus torsion just ain't right for a baja
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volksrods...PFTTTT. How about TheSamba:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=281289

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

subybaja wrote:
Volksrods...PFTTTT. How about TheSamba:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=281289

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has anyone used this jig? i was going to make my own but if anyone has used this one succesfully it might be worth it just to buy them. looks like its just tack welded together but could be so it wouldnt expand and get missaligned from welding i was also woried about this problem when building mine.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Ellobo,

Ya need to change your handle there fella! Maybe to something like

"Big Red" Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you lived close I would go halves with you on the jig, becouse I aam looking to do the same!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HB, this would make a nice sticky....seems to be a common question. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CopperBaja wrote:
HB, this would make a nice sticky....seems to be a common question. Smile

good call. done
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that would be a good local club purchase. Hmmm.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't you use an IRS trailing arm as a jig? Bolt it to the spring plate, attach the pivot brackets to the arms and line them up on the torsion tube and tack it into place. I must be missing something here. That seems like it would be much easier than building a jig. Im sure there is a reason Blindchicken built the jig. Can anyone tell me why the arm and the jig aren't equal?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the jig keeps everything in stock orientation. i know a guy that used the arms themselves as a jig for an IRS conversion on an early bus. the reason he used the arms instead of the pre-fab jig was to put the pivots where he wanted and eliminate what camber would be there if the bus was kept stock height.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$75 seems way outta line for a jig. I built mine out of scrap and then sold it for $20 when I was done with it.
If you have the skill to weld in new pivots, you have the skill to make a jig. Seriously.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...if you've got an IRS car handy (and stripped) as a jig for your jig!
I do, so I am making my own, but I can see where borrowing your buddy's car and removing it's suspension might not be worth it.
And that's assuming you're doing you own welding.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

subybaja wrote:
Volksrods...PFTTTT. How about TheSamba:

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That's Fuuny, cuz it IS a guy from Volksrods... Laughing Rolling Eyes

Great guy! He's really good to deal with! I'd recomend anything he sells. Wink
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