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Dwayne Pipe
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: Louvered (JALOUSIE) westy window |
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I have a 1965 Westfalia SO-42.
There are small, circular, clear rubber self adhesive pads in between each louvered window pane to prevent rattle and movement of the glass within the frame.
Does anyone know any distributors please? Wolksburg west have no idea where to get them either 
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Major Woody
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Dwayne Pipe
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Great.
Thanks for that!
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www.oldvolks.com
Ronnie has them.
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Fish
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Home Depot has them. They are made by 3M or you can buy them here at http://www.mcmaster.com/
Part # 95495K64
Adhesive-Backed Polyurethane Bumper Dome Top, 1/4" Dia, 5/64" H, Clear
In stock at $8.71 per Pack (225 each) lots of extras. 
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crofty
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The real ones are not clear they are black and have no adhesive.
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Fish
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| The real ones are not clear they are black and have no adhesive. |
That is because these are better.
These are black, but they do have glue. #95495K371
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Major Woody
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| crofty wrote: |
| The real ones are not clear they are black and have no adhesive. |
They are black? Very interesting.
Mine looked gray.
I just went and cut into one of the brittle old pads that I removed and saved. It appears to be gray, all the way through.
Vintage Trailer also describes the pads as gray rubber. Jim Ellis describes the pads as "grey rubber" in his jalousie restoration article in the Type2.com archives. http://www.type2.com/library/exterior/splitjal.htm.
Are yours black? Any other site users have black pads in your window assemblies and have reason to believe they are original?
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crofty
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| crofty wrote: |
| The real ones are not clear they are black and have no adhesive. |
They are black? Very interesting.
Mine looked gray.
I just went and cut into one of the brittle old pads that I removed and saved. It appears to be gray, all the way through.
Vintage Trailer also describes the pads as gray rubber. Jim Ellis describes the pads as "grey rubber" in his jalousie restoration article in the Type2.com archives. http://www.type2.com/library/exterior/splitjal.htm.
Are yours black? Any other site users have black pads in your window assemblies and have reason to believe they are original?
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Mine were a charcoal color when i pitched them. If memory serves me right Ronnie got his from Hehr. I'm not going to lose sleep over black or dark grey though.
I did just notice last night while installing them that his "set" is short a lot of them. Each window takes 12 not 6.
Adhesive would be nice I guess but not necessary. They are a solid tube and not a cone shaped.
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Major Woody
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Sean, my windows only have 6--one on each end of the three panes of pivoting glass, right behind the little tang that sticks out on the back side of the pivot.
It appears to me that during manufacture, the pivots were installed in the frame, then the glass was slid into the pivots, then the bumpers were pushed in, and finally the tangs were bent toward the glass to varying degrees in order to hold them securely.
Where are your six additional pads? Photos?
I agree with you that adhesive serves no purpose other than to collect dirt. |
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Do it yourself and save ...... with a 4" x 12" piece and a punch you can make lots and lots. Estimated number 320 pieces, but you probably could get more. Estimated cost per unit is .10 cents each. (material and tool)
Material Type-Silicone Rubber (will last almost forever)
Backing-No Backing (no glue)
Thickness-1/8"
Thickness Tolerance-±0.015"
Length-12"
Length Tolerance-Has a plus tolerance.
Width-12"
Width Tolerance-Has a plus tolerance.
Durometer-Medium Soft and Medium Hard
Durometer Rating-50A
Durometer Hardness Tolerance-±5
Temperature Range--75° to +500° F
Cut With-Scissors or Shears
Tensile Strength-750 psi
Stretch Limit-250%
Density-77 lbs./cu. ft.
Compression Recovery-Good
Color-Gray
Finish-Smooth on Both Sides
Tolerance-Standard
Specifications Met-American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM)
ASTM Specification-ASTM D2000 GE
Properties-Weather Resistant and Electrical Resistant
Part number #5812T142-In stock at $22.20 Each
Small-Diameter Hole Punch 3/8" Hole Diameter, Trade Size 14
Part number # 3424A25-In stock at $7.98 Each
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Major Woody
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| Seems like a lot of trouble to go through when you can get a bus's worth for the price of a ham sandwich. |
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crofty
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Sean, my windows only have 6--one on each end of the three panes of pivoting glass, right behind the little tang that sticks out on the back side of the pivot.
It appears to me that during manufacture, the pivots were installed in the frame, then the glass was slid into the pivots, then the bumpers were pushed in, and finally the tangs were bent toward the glass to varying degrees in order to hold them securely.
Where are your six additional pads? Photos?
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You don't have upper and lower tangs? 4 per pane.
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mine look gray... and seem to never have been changed
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| Seems like a lot of trouble to go through when you can get a bus's worth for the price of a ham sandwich. |
I'll bet I spent more time posting that then I would making them.  Oh well. Just trying to help people out.
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| Fish wrote: |
| Major Woody wrote: |
| Seems like a lot of trouble to go through when you can get a bus's worth for the price of a ham sandwich. |
I'll bet I spent more time posting that then I would making them. Oh well. Just trying to help people out. |
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Major Woody
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Sean, my windows only have 6--one on each end of the three panes of pivoting glass, right behind the little tang that sticks out on the back side of the pivot.
It appears to me that during manufacture, the pivots were installed in the frame, then the glass was slid into the pivots, then the bumpers were pushed in, and finally the tangs were bent toward the glass to varying degrees in order to hold them securely.
Where are your six additional pads? Photos?
I agree with you that adhesive serves no purpose other than to collect dirt. |
You don't have upper and lower tangs? 4 per pane. |
Mine only have one tang, about halfway up the back side. Very interesting! One more data point, I guess.
If you're not in a hurry I will send you the extra material you will need to make the additional pads you need. I have more than I need to make the 30 pieces that my bus will require. I haven't cut the piece up yet but with a few minutes, a beer and a razor blade, I can change that. |
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crofty
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If you're not in a hurry I will send you the extra material you will need to make the additional pads you need. I have more than I need to make the 30 pieces that my bus will require. I haven't cut the piece up yet but with a few minutes, a beer and a razor blade, I can change that. |
Sounds like a evening in Spokane!
I'm in no hurry- I bought them from Ronnies last year and just did two windows yesterday!
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Major Woody
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| Alright dude. I'll let you know when I've cut them all up. It would be a good thing to do when I'm watching TV or something. |
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