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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Cant seem to get the static and timing gun to match Reply with quote

I have a 1966 beetle with a stock dizzy and static time the car to 7.5 degrees. But when I hit it with the timing light, it shows 20 degrees on the pulley, instead of 7.5. Any ideas wy this is happening? Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 degrees at idle?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, sorry, 20 degrees at idle
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you disconnecting the vacuum hose when checking with the timing light? The spring inside the dizzy may be worn.

From http://www.oldvolkshome.com/ignition.htm "Beetle 1966-1967 - 7.5deg BTDC Static or @ 800-950rpm w/strobe w/vacuum hose disconnected and plugged
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum (Advance Only): 17-19deg @ 1.3 In. Hg, 24-28deg @ 3.2 In. Hg".
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes I did disconnect the hose... I dont get it... it seems to be running and idleing right based off the static timong... do I have to use a gun

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would stick with the static timing if it is running good. Your timing light may be off (weak pick-up signal). Is it steady at 20 or does it wander ..my be a worn dizzy shaft.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it stays strong... i see that the specs say 17-19 degrees advance. if i am reading that right then my timing is not that off if mine is at 20 at idel???
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magnus0328 wrote:
i see that the specs say 17-19 degrees advance. if i am reading that right then my timing is not that off if mine is at 20 at idel???


But that would only be with the vacuum hose connected ..its a vacuum advance only dizzy. Is the car 6V or 12V? A timing gun won't work with 6V ..unless it's a 6V gun.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, vacuum advance only
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure you had the timing light clipped to the correct wire?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it was clipped on wire # 1, it is 12 volts and read 20 degrees at idle... I dont get it... It is a cheap 12 dollar light ... I wonder if that is what the problem is?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would blame the cheapy gun. Even the higher priced timing lights will be off a bit, most state on the packaging or in the manual of a +/- 3* accuracy .Stick with the static timing since it's a vacuum advanced only dizzy and it's running good. I have a 65 Beetle with the same type dizzy (vacuum only) and I static time it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i appreciate it man...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Timing Light Reply with quote

Just so you know, If you have a 6 volt system you can use a 12 volt timing light on it. Just hook up the 12 volt timing light to a 12 volt battery from another car. Works just fine!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt Wilson wrote:
are you sure you had the timing light clipped to the correct wire?


I did that once. I thought I clipped it to #1 but it was on #2. It took me a while to figure it out too. Man oh man.
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