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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Power windows not working Reply with quote

So the power window on the passenger side has decided to stop working; with the window down. We have ruled out the switch and the fuse. Pretty sure it is the motor. The drivers side window works fine.
I know that I have seen in the past a link regarding converting the power windows to manual, but I haven't had any luck finding the link again... but is it worth that... if I replace the motor is it really that expensive and you think that I would get at least another 10 some years out of a new motor
what do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The motor is not unique to Vanagons. But before you run off and do anything rash use some jumper wires and run 12 volts directly to the motor. you can reverse the polarity of the wires to make it go up and down. If it works by direct connection, then it is your switch. You may find that the Quantuma nd other VW/Audi products of the same vintage share the motor. You also may be able to just remove the motor. It usually is corrosion on the bottom bearing freezing it up.

Myself and a couple of other Vanagon owners have noticed our passenger side windows go up slower than the drivers side.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few things to do prior to going off on a wild goose chase figuring out why the R/H glass isn't going up and down.

First check it out for a broken wire in the boot between the door hinge post and the door, on both sides.

It's a pretty common thing for the wires to break off inside the boot.

Next--and while your at the R/H door test for juice to the motor with an ice pick circuit tester.
Operate the switch, and stick the wires or terminals with the probe.
It'll tell you right away if your getting power to the motor.

Last but not the least, check out the grounding terminal block on the driver's side buried under the dash and bolted the back side of the front cowel panel.
If the ground is all corroded the motor will refuse to operate.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you for all the tips... today is devoted to getting the window up again, at the very least.
Is there a way to get the window glass manually up if the motor is shot?
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take the motor out, you will see it has a worm gear. Once it is out, and the worm is no longer locking the spur gear in place, it should lift up. However you will then need to either re-insert the motor or find a way to block it up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pop off the passenger door pannel. find the 2 prong connecter, reverse it(plug it backwards,it won't fit, you have to force it) now try to raise the window(key on) if it goes up than the yellow/black wire is open(broken)
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Pwer window not working Reply with quote

I found that the yellow and black wire is broken in half. I am going to see if I can find the other end of the wire and try splacing back together just to see if I can atleast get the window back up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Power window not working Reply with quote

Just wanted to let everyone know that the broken wire was the problem. The window is know up. I want to thank everyone that gave suggestions and ideas that lead me to find the problem. Would probably still be sitting in my drive way crying. As always this site rocks big time. So thank you thank you thank you everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: tips for my driver side window Reply with quote

my window would not go up on the driver side. I ordered a switch and have the panel off to see the guts. I found a black uturn type thing broken inside the door. The motor makes a click when you try to roll up or down but that is it. Is my motor shot? Is it somthing todo with the broken black thing.

Any help would be greatly appriciated. I can not find a diagram of those wires that drive the window up and down to see how they work.

Thanks,

John
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Power window not working Reply with quote

<<Just wanted to let everyone know that the broken wire was the problem. The window is know up. I want to thank everyone that gave suggestions and ideas that lead me to find the problem. Would probably still be sitting in my drive way crying. As always this site rocks big time. So thank you thank you thank you everyone.>>


You'll 9 times outa 10 find a broken wire in the door loom when the window's, speaker's or door locks fail--always.

It's pretty much rule of thumb the first place to start when one of the item's above mentioned fail.
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