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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Universal Front A/C Units Reply with quote

Does anyone know about these guys, or know a better way? I'm tired of being cooked in my van

http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=01&Category_Code=universalevap


http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/select.php?PHPSESSID=2e194ec10cb7572668d7e7e10e230eee
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk to this guy, seems nice enough:
WWW.Europeancoolcrair.com
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't get the link to work Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WWW.Europeancoolerair.com
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogpilot wrote:
Talk to this guy, seems nice enough:
WWW.Europeancoolerair.com


cooler not coolcr Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an actual install - the text is apparently not finished, yet, but the photo gallery is pretty complete.

http://blakeheinlein.googlepages.com/vanagon-airconditioning


http://picasaweb.google.com/blakeheinlein/VanagonAC?authkey=DwtniIla7C8

He purchased stuff from www.vintageair.com. While this isn't the way i would do the install, it definitely gives a good idea of what you are getting into with a generic AC unit. There is a bit of a discussion on the vanagon.com mailing list about these today and yesterday...

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I snagged the system from an '86 7-passenger van. I have been planning on retrofitting it to the front of my '83 ASI 1.6TD vanagon. I plan on cutting out a large portion of the dashboard and making a custom unit that will include the A/C evaporator, gauges that are angled correctly for the driver's view, and CUP HOLDERS! Very Happy I will obviously need a couple of hoses to run the length of the van... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew A. Libby wrote:
I snagged the system from an '86 7-passenger van. I have been planning on retrofitting it to the front of my '83 ASI 1.6TD vanagon. I plan on cutting out a large portion of the dashboard and making a custom unit that will include the A/C evaporator, gauges that are angled correctly for the driver's view, and CUP HOLDERS! Very Happy I will obviously need a couple of hoses to run the length of the van... Rolling Eyes

Andrew


I can't imagine how underpowered your van will be when the A/C is turned on........d'oh d'oh!
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got the unit installed by Europeancoolerair (being closer to Rockwall thn most). When the AC is fully charged, it works fine (except when driving directly into a sunset). He installs the unit in the dash with cold air coming out of the "fresh air" vents as well as a bonus "sticky-up" vent in place of the ash tray.
I would recommend it if you have a Westy and really want AC.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr. no wrote:
We got the unit installed by Europeancoolerair ...He installs the unit in the dash with cold air coming out of the "fresh air" vents as well as a bonus "sticky-up" vent in place of the ash tray.


Do you have any pictures? I'd like to see the installation. Cool

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Andrew A. Libby wrote:
I snagged the system from an '86 7-passenger van. I have been planning on retrofitting it to the front of my '83 ASI 1.6TD vanagon.


I count imagine how underpowered your van will be when the A/C is turned on........d'oh d'oh!


My van previously easily and dramatically out-performed a 1.9 WBX. When I get done with the next phase of improvements (VNT turbo, headstuds, metal headgasket, etc.), I'm quite sure it will dramatically out-perform a stock 2.1 WBX in hp and torque across the board. Obviously it will get better fuel economy to boot with the added bonus of being able to run on biofuels. The idea that turbo-diesels are underpowered is quite outdated.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diesels are underpowered. Turbodiesels kick booty!!

In my humble opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So TD means Turbo Diesel ? Lol................ Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two weeks ago I took my rear unit apart on the 86 westy and replaced the expansion valve and cleaned the coil and blew out the drain tube and recharged with 3 cans of the RedTek. First time my wife ever asked me to turn it down and that it was too cold. Only had it on mid fan speed. It is Colder than the air on my 2006 Chrysler T&C minivan. On my 86 and 87, the high side compressor hose was crimped poorly and leaking when soap was applied... Cut off the crimp on and install screw clamps. No more leaks.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 Behr units for the front. Hopefully I have enough pieces to make one. I have been studying them and think it will work out OK. The A/C guy told me he will hook things up so I can blow cold from the original rear or the new front or both. "Cool."

I plan on using the red tek refrigerant as discussed here before. http://www.redtek.com

That vintage air box is really neat. Looks like it installs well. But, the vent setup shown and what not, is not to my taste. My idea is a new console on top too, but not quite as shown, I must admit. But, then again, it looks rigged enough that no one would want to steal it......
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just got off the phone with Mr. West at CoolerAir, first of all he may be a bigger VW nut than me.

He knows his stuff, his front kit is a straight bolt up kit, it mounts behind the glove box and ties into the refrig system with "t" fittings.

he even has a bigger rear unit for our westy's ! ! !

I'm going to bite the bullet, first of all I need to sell a kayak to get the funds.

Once I get started I'll post all of it on the web for others to learn and see...I'm excited about it!
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kayakwesty wrote:
just got off the phone with Mr. West at CoolerAir, first of all he may be a bigger VW nut than me.

He knows his stuff, his front kit is a straight bolt up kit, it mounts behind the glove box and ties into the refrig system with "t" fittings.

he even has a bigger rear unit for our westy's ! ! !

I'm going to bite the bullet, first of all I need to sell a kayak to get the funds.

Once I get started I'll post all of it on the web for others to learn and see...I'm excited about it!


That's a great idea! Yes, post your experience. This source in Dallas, TX is a great find. VW nut guru, Texas heat = perfect for MAX A/C system experience.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll offer my lowly "front A/C unit" install...

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