Zwitter?

57veedub · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: Zwitter?

so im curious other then the obvious (oval dash with split rear window) whats special about a zwitter and whats the story behind them?
why didint vw make more zwitters?
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thebucket · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:

They were using up old parts before the ovals went into full production. There are some small interior differences as well. Do a search I think this has been covered....... Cool

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vwwitch · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: zwitter

i have a zwitter and the differences i know of r as follows ...

there is a push button starter button on the left of the steering wheel , heart tail lights, dome light switch under the dash on the left of the steering wheel , dome light without an on off switch on it , speedo is a 6 month only speedo it has 2 separate arrows on it to indicate the signal is on , ash tray is different then an oval , there is an A/Z on the heater nob , the ignition switch is an on and off and is a zwitter only ,

as far as i can think thats all i can remember ... if i think of anything else ill post it ...

working dog · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:48 am Post subject:

Hey vwwitch my nov 5 1953 oval has all off the parts you just mentioned not zwitter only.These parts were used mid 1952 till dec 1953. Hope this helps !

John Moxon · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: Re: zwitter?

vwwitch · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:

did not know that about using the parts till dec 53 ... thanx for the info

Bruce · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:39 am Post subject:

banana split · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject:

And remember, those Zwitter roof stampings are different than the earlier split ones if you consider where the interior light was located. The earlier splits had a big round light mounted above the "split" and Zwitters had them mounted in the same location as an oval etc. That big round hole for the early splits had to be stamped out. And yes I realize the big hole was stamped into a separate panel that was welded to the roof section.
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passoa55 · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject:

A zwitter haves also an alluminium font hood handle, same model as oval.
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57veedub · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

thanks everyone for the positive answers

i always thought there was more differance other then just the roof stamp
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IN2VWS · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject:

I was speaking to a nice guy in Germany in April this year. He had a Zwitter, and has owned it for over 30 years. It was a very nice example of the car.

Whether this is true or not I don't know, but he told me the reason the Zwitter was not an oval is because there was issues with the curved glass of the oval windows, so they continued with the split window until the problems with the curved glass was sorted out. But the intention was for it to be an oval from October 1952.
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25horseboxer · Samba Member Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 210

Also, the "split" rear window in a Zwitter has Aluminum trim. a split doesn't.

52HoffmanSplit · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:

Dave Haviland · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject:

Do early ovals have the rectangular headlight switch like a zwitter? Same ash tray?

Dave

working dog · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:29 am Post subject:

Yes my 53 oval has same ash tray and rect. lite switch.

usariemen · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:

Zwitter ashtrays have no handle, 53 ovals have the little chromed handle on the ashtray but not yet the later chrome frame around.
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Zwitter · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Zwitter

All the noted facts concerning the Zwitter models have been accurate!
I have been wating to see if there would be a posting by anyone in reference to the non-anodized body side mouldings, door window aluminum scraper frames, and running board trim, which match the mouldings found in the window rubbers.
I think over the years these mouldings have been replaced during "restoration", the owners liking the look of the shiny anodized trim.
It's certainly not easy to find the original trim mouldings.

bam · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:

don't forget the antenna lump in the roof.
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53 0val · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject:

A difference between a Zwitter and a '53 oval not mentioned is that the interior light has NO switch at the light......a '53 oval has a two position light switch and in '54 they got the familiar three position light switch.
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vwwitch · Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject:

as far as i know there is no hump on the roof for an antenna ... my zwitter doesnt have it and neither does my friends ...


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