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Craigbro Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2021 Posts: 189 Location: Louisiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 3:38 pm Post subject: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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So just getting my engine installed after replacing seals, pushrod tubes, etc.
I have adjusted points and valves and looking to check timing.
I have a old school timing gun so no advance. I did static timing to get started.
I have a pully with degree markings and used this to set the valves.
So the questions-
When I start the engine and check timing I get about 29 degrees at idle. I idle up to 3000 and get around 50 degrees. These are rough numbers.
I'm guessing that with an timing gun with advance the 29 would read zero like it should?
What should I read idling at 3000? How does the math work?
Never did this before, just been reading. Is there another way that I should be doing this? |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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c21darrel wrote: |
Mech or vacuum distrib? they are done differently i believe. |
Mechanical only, set 28-32º BTDC @ 3500rpm
Vacuum/mechanical, remove the vacuum line, plug the port on the carb, then set to 28-32º BTDC @ 3500rpm
Vacuum only, remove the vacuum line, plug the port on the carb, set to 7/5º BTDC @ 800rpm _________________ Glenn
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NoDents Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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NEVER GO OVER 32 at any RPM. _________________ No Dents
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Craigbro Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2021 Posts: 189 Location: Louisiana, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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Glenn wrote: |
c21darrel wrote: |
Mech or vacuum distrib? they are done differently i believe. |
Mechanical only, set 28-32* BTDC @ 3500rpm
Vacuum/mechanical, remove the vacuum line, plug the port on the carb, then set to 28-32* BTDC @ 3500rpm
Vacuum only, remove the vacuum line, plug the port on the carb, set to 7/5* BTDC @ 800rpm |
Alright, so its a Mechanical distributor (0 231 178 009 JF 4) no vacuum line so set at 28-32 BTDC @3500. I will take a look tomorrow and report back.
Thanks for the replies! |
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Craigbro Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2021 Posts: 189 Location: Louisiana, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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Alright, think I'm on the right track. Not sure why the readings were so off yesterday but I believe everything looks more normal today.
With the static timing I was idling around 12 and mid 30s at 3500. I lowered it at idle to 7.5 and at 3500 its right at 30.
Looking at the degrees while timing I'm looking at the markings to the right of TDC. To clarify, this is correct? |
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runamoc  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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set 28-32º BTDC @ 3500rpm |
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Tom K. Samba Member

Joined: March 10, 2005 Posts: 1692 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Timing with Degree Pulley - Questions |
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Craigbro wrote: |
Alright, think I'm on the right track. Not sure why the readings were so off yesterday but I believe everything looks more normal today.
With the static timing I was idling around 12 and mid 30s at 3500. I lowered it at idle to 7.5 and at 3500 its right at 30.
Looking at the degrees while timing I'm looking at the markings to the right of TDC. To clarify, this is correct? |
Yes, your timing light will illuminate a mark on your pulley that is to the right of TDC. Your timing now looks good based on your latest numbers. _________________ '91 Vanagon Westfalia
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