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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reverse lockout plate? Reply with quote

so i am putting my shift rod linkage back in up front, and am trying to put the lockout plate back in, but stupid me doesnt remember which direction it goes, or does it not matter. so can some on help me out here, does the tab thing go on the driver or pass. side?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It goes in like this:

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you so much
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth. I just put my shifter back in and went for a spin. I was having a hard time getting into 2nd. it wasn't straight down from 1st where it had been. I had just had the motor, trans ect out and been on block for several days. I loosened the 2 bolts that hold the shifter, slide the base towards the drivers side a bit , tightened it back up and it was perfect. I was happy cause for a minute there I though I was going to be tearing the thing apart again. Anyway...just saying if it feels strange when you get it back together try adjusting the base.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i put the shifter all back together and now i cant get it to sift into first or reverse? what do i do? ive put the plate all the way to the top, all the way down and left and right.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you need to move the base to the left and perhaps a little rearward. Also check the linkage under the Bus is bolted TIGHT and that the safety wire through the bolt heads is wound in such a way as to keep the bolts tight, not to allow loosening!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just put a diferent trans in, and i just put the beam in, so i tightened down the linkage pretty good, but they didnt have any wire on them wheni took them off. how is this supposed to be on there? any one have a picture or something.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does that bellows interfere with the tranny side of the coupler movement?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stock seals for the shift tube and tranny nose cone never caused a shifting problem from the factory. They just help keep out the dirt and other crud from these areas so they will not have so much more wear so much sooner.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh. I didn't realize the nose cone had that dust cover as I always switched to the seal and bushing style nose cone of the '67 type.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup! They used the dust cover over the seal/bushing setup right up to 1980. Thus the seal/bushing last longer.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang. Now I gotta get that. I wondered why the seal got trashed so soon. Anyhow, on that reverse lockout plate pic, isn't that the old timey unimproved version? The new one has 2 rails I thought.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

made sure everything was tight, and moved the basplate around a bit more, and still no first, what else could it be?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope the transmission you put in has the indent in the correct place. I've read of different ones on here. Do you have second? Where is third in relation to the parcel tray? Do you have reverse in a normal place?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crackkills wrote:
made sure everything was tight, and moved the basplate around a bit more, and still no first, what else could it be?


Something is off. Whats happening is you're actually in reverse. Move the shifter in the neautral position then to the right a little and you'll find first and second, but probally won't have 3 and 4


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
Oh. I didn't realize the nose cone had that dust cover as I always switched to the seal and bushing style nose cone of the '67 type.



the nosecone in that pic is a 67 (with reverse light switch).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crackkills wrote:
made sure everything was tight, and moved the basplate around a bit more, and still no first, what else could it be?


if you replaced the rear coupler, it may not have the holes in proper alignment, and may need to be changed to one that is better. this is a common problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did not replace the coupler, but i did check to make sure the holes were lined up.

the transmision is a bug trans, but i put the nocesone from the old bus one on it. it basically shifted around the same way before i changed trans, no first or reverse. so maybe the nose cone is a problem? the bus was sitting for a long time.
but i can move the shifter forward into 1 gear and over the shifter back into 2, and no parcel tray is in there right now

when i shift to what i think is second, and when i try to push down and shift into reverse, the shifter ends up in the same spot. when i shift into "third" the shifter isnt sitting way over to the right.

so it would make sense if what i was shifting into was first second and reverse, but would i be able to shift into reverse without pushing down on the shifter. ive moved the base plate all the way to the right and all the way to the left and they feel the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be what you think is reverse is actually 2nd, and the lock-out isn't working. I've seen this happen. Sometimes it's in the trans, sometimes in the linkage, sometimes the plate under the shift stick, sometimes on the shift stick the skirt below the cup for the spring is worn.

It should be circle, not a D. If one side is flattened into a D, that could be the problem.

Have you driven the bus up/down the driveway since the new trans went in?
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