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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread Reply with quote

OK,
I decided to edit the title of this thread. I know there is a thread on suspension, wheels & tires for lowered buses. Didn't see one for stock buses with large tires/ big meat buses. Here is what I want to put on mine:

Anyone know if these will fit on a 1958 split bus at stock height? I'd be running 15" crows feet rims.

I recall there was a single cab on the west coast who had a tire that looked like this.

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Here are the specs:

Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC

SKU 587117
Construction: 6 ply nylon
Load Capacity: 1720 @ 50 psi
Tube Type: Requires Tube
Overall Diameter: 29.50
Cross Section: 7.80
Max Inflation: 50
Price: $86.00
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some 670R15 6ply bridgestones on my bus and they fit, just! Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have some 670R15 6ply bridgestones on my bus and they fit, just! Wink Laughing



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they'd be too tall, or close to it. A 205/70 is roughly 25 1/2" tall - these are 4" taller than tat!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tubes........ I don't know about that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC Reply with quote

mpribanic wrote:
Anyone know if these will fit on a 1958 split bus at stock height? I'd be running 15" crows feet rims.

I recall there was a single cab on the west coast who had a tire that looked like this.

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Here are the specs:

Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC

SKU 587117
Construction: 6 ply nylon
Load Capacity: 1720 @ 50 psi
Tube Type: Requires Tube
Overall Diameter: 29.50
Cross Section: 7.80
Max Inflation: 50
Price: $86.00


I got something vaguely similar to that for the back of my 1960 Kombi years ago, I believe that the size was the same, and I didn't have to even mount them to see that they wouldn't fit. They would have rubbed in at least one way from what I recall. I *really* would have loved to stuff some nasty looking nobby bias plies up in there but I wasn't able to find something stylish, vintage, and the right size to do it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look tuff MP but i bet theyd never fit without lifting.

My 225-70-14 A/Ts work out to about 26.5 inches over all diameter and 8.8 inches wide. Ive got about 1.5 inches at the closest point at the rear of the dog legs. Your NDCCs are 29.5 inches overall diameter which means Zero clearance.

But then again, the NDCCs are a little narrower, as is the 15 inch rim. Maybe it could tuck inside the dogleg, but i wouldnt bet on it.

Maybe buy one and try it out? Ive done that in the past.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its too bad, but it appears that most of the serious heavy duty tires which will fit are only available in 14" rim sizes. I looked them up on various websites and was able to find over 15 tires in a 14" which are LT or better rated, or offroad, with diameters of 28 inches or less. The 15" tires are very limited.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its too bad, but it appears that most of the serious heavy duty tires which will fit are only available in 14" rim sizes. I looked them up on various websites and was able to find over 15 tires in a 14" which are LT or better rated, or offroad, with diameters of 28 inches or less. The 15" tires are very limited.


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How tall are the Firestone bias-ply's that are on the SS Kombi?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did similar research and wanted to use exactly same military spec tires- but this wont work because its almost 30 inch diameter - WONT FIT.

My bus has 215/75r15 hercules terra tracs, 6 ply, very good and strong. (heard they dont make em any more) they run abt 27.1 inches tall. Works perfectly and doesnt rub- a tight fit and have to deflate rear tires to mount em!
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in '07 , went on shasta snow trip with these wheels and it ripped up the backroads w/out plms-
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is for stock suspension set up. Im not sayin g 30" tires wont fit, im sure they will with modifications to suspension etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always narrow the beam and tub it!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you sling the rabbit into the fence with those big tires Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that is Wiley Coyote...(sp)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohh yes, good ol dead coyote road, miles and miles of dead coyotes, everytime I show these pics to someone they freak out.....man what a fun trip though and that road was way cool. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vw-in-neptune wrote:
in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles.


Yea, there's no way a 30 inch tire could fit under a stock height bus. The tires on my bus are 30 inches tall, and they caught the doglegs even with the turned beam. For the back however, I think they would work
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vw-in-neptune wrote:
in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles.


Yea, there's no way a 30 inch tire could fit under a stock height bus. The tires on my bus are 30 inches tall, and they caught the doglegs even with the turned beam. For the back however, I think they would work


I found this in the thread about Colby's Standard...Here's an edited quote per Big Bus Mike

"That being said, You can run up to a 30" tall tire in the rear w/o modification and no body clearance issues. "...

Anybody else run 30" tall tires in the rear?

How tall a tire can you fit in the front suspension?
I'd like to hear what people with stock buses are running for large meats.
Size and brand's please

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touch Nicks Thing wrote:
I doubt it.


Nick,
What are you running on the Veta Crete panel?

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Size?

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