Fuel Line-Between Pump and Filter

Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: Fuel Line-Between Pump and Filter

1976 FI 2L

I noticed the fuel line between the fuel filter and pump was leaking slightly -wet hose and slight drips on driveway. So I went to replace it.

Should there be a constant flow of fuel out of that hose with the engine off. If so, any recommendations on how to slow the flow long enough to put the new line on?

Thanks,

Troy

VDub Campers Ltd. · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject:

Yes get a fuel line clamp from any motor factors or if this is not possible use vice grips to grip the hose at the side of the filter closest to the front of the vehicle . If using vice grips protect the hose with a rag or something to save damage to to hose .
Yes fuel would always drain from the tank if you didnt clamp it .
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Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject:

so clamp on the fuel tank side of the filter. That way I can remove the suspect line. Makes sense. Thanks

Randy in Maine · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject:

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Make sure you get the correct hose. 11mm as I recall.

Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject:

I went to public school what is the standard conversion for that? Smile

When i get the line is Fuel Injection hose the kind to get?

Randy in Maine · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject:

Yes I went to public schools also. That is why I am willing to work on a VW bus.

11mm = 11mm.

Do not buy the SAE equivalent. That is a tough one to find also. I bought some at the Merceded Dealer, but I should have just bought it for less money at German Supply.

Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject:

I guess what I mean by the standard conversion is the measurment system that we are stick with here n the USA...

local auto parts store carries 3/8'' etc.

Is German Supply an online company? It's one of those can wait but would rather not,for it to come in the mail.

Thanks Randy

Troy

busfreak_71 · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:

Your bus was made in Germany (DUH!) There they use metric, so use metric tools, 11mm=11mm or IF you musk know the SAE equivalent of a 11mm, a 7/16" will do but is not recommended because it isn't the right tool... Rolling Eyes

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Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:

I undrstand that the rest of the world uses Metric including the folks who put my bus together:).. my question was, in a pinch, without quick delivery from German Supply, what would suffice from the local store. They just looked confused when I expressed the need for exact metric product.

Maybe Canada doesn't have the problem I do with my local auto parts store only stocking in inches etc. so my dilemma may have been lost on you.

On a side note, most of the scientific world is suing metric. I wish the U.S. would step up to the plate with the rest of the world.

I ended up ordering from German Supply and will just start my Christmas trip a week later. But what is cool is I found jalousie window crank handles Smile

cr@M · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

I hate SAE. I prefer metric over everything.

America likes being different and stubborn because they think they're right and they need ways like SAE to feel better than everything.

*no there's no support to go with that, just a small rant*
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Brown_Bus · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:

I hear ya. Metric is soo much easier to work with. Conversion within the system at least.

Traveling Writer · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

Regarding German Supply, yes they are online.
http://www.germansupply.com/home/customer/home.php?cat=300
I just received the replacement fuel hose kit, and it looks great! I know many others on here rely on Scott at GS to do their fuel lines. Check out the link....
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vdubyah73 · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:50 am Post subject:

Little off topic, but since it's been mentioned, it really toasts my ass that American cars are now both SAE and metric.

Bill
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dtrumbo · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

IFBwax · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

FYI your Mercedes or BMW dealer should have it. Also, you'll need slightly bigger hose clamps which are also available from them or even a VW dealer. They cost a bit more than any old clamp, but won't pinch the hose.
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82-T/A · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:20 am Post subject:

If this has not been mentioned already... unless you absolutely want to keep the car 100% stock, I highly recommend you replace those old lines with steel lines. Steel lines will last twice as long, and hold pressure better than those old VW lines.
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dtrumbo · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:37 am Post subject:

Brown_Bus · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject:

well I ordered the fuel line form GS, splurged for the 3-5 day shipping, found the window crank knobs and ordered them Smile

...

My wife called me at work to let me know that the fuel line has a ''slight'' 3-4 drop a minute drip. I do have a local mechanic who I trust dearly, but my work hours latley have been running later than his hours. He did offer to leave a , what he called a 12mm hose, for me to pick up after hours.

I am confused as GS and others reference an 11mm hose. Hopefully the 12mm will work until my shipment from GS arives. The bus isnt my daily driver so it isnt an immediate need, other than the previously mentioned trip at weeks end.

If there is enough light when I get home to get the hose changed out I wil report back. I could do it in the garage but dont want to smell it up with any spilt fuel.

Thanks guys

IFBwax · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:

As you know this is a must do. If it leaks on its own, imagine how much it will leak with it is under pressure from the pump.

I don't want to scare you, but I went and looked at a burned out bus a few months ago.

They had the same problem with the hose by the pump, but felt they could drive it the 1 mile to the VW garage to have them fix it.

They only got a few blocks before it burned to a crisp... and the bus was toast.

Here's some more information about hoses and such...

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses.html
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1FUNBUG · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject:

If the hose from the tank to the pump is leaking then it's not under pressure. However, it may be an indication that the hoses on the pressurized side (i.e. engine compartment fuel rail) are nearing their life expectancy. Anyhow, good move ordering from German Supply. I've used their fuel hose kit and was very happy with the results.


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