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kuhl 181 Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Rear Tire Carrier |
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Does anyone have any good pics or dimensions of bracket that bolts to Decklid? I resently purchased a used carrier for a excellent price ,but he didn't have this bracket. Any help would be greatly appreciated, please send to: [email protected] |
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Chris181 Samba Member

Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 90 Location: French riviera
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kuhl 181 Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanx, That gives me a pretty good idea on what I need. |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I just installed the Thing Shop tire carrier last Summer. I had a friend who is a welder help me. Good thing I asked him for help because some modification was needed. We also fabricated some extra support. My spare is REALLY heavy.
I'll take some detailed pics and post them - hopefully today. _________________
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thingnut Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Vidor< Texas
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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You definitely need extra support. I have one on the rear of the 74 I just bought and the metal is cracked on the body at both brackets and will have to be welded and repaired on mine. |
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Tim10 Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2004 Posts: 1433 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have one that hasn't been installed yet.
Would be willing to lend it. _________________ Dub Infested- PART WI$H LI$T-CLICK |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Pics - as promised...
A good view of the inside of the swing arm
A side view - closed
Outside of the deck lid
Steel reinforcement plates added to the inside of the deck lid
The position of the bolts on the inside of the body/engine compartment - just missed the seams!
Another view of the arm bracket
Unhinged
I've only had it on for less than 6 months, but haven't had any problems. At a show this Summer I saw one Thing with a lot of damage done due to the carrier. As I said, that spare is REALLY heavy. The Thing Shop tire carrier isn't that well designed - compared to Jeep tire carriers - and definitely needs added support behind the deck lid.
I hope this helps. _________________
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Last edited by Fun 181 on Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Tim10 Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2004 Posts: 1433 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Good point on the quality..
I've seen about 3 of them up close.. many of the welds are shabby (on most)
I have a hunch many are meant to be show and not supportive.
Thanks for the great pix. _________________ Dub Infested- PART WI$H LI$T-CLICK |
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kuhl 181 Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Everyone & thanks for pics Fun 181. I'll reinforce mine also, since I'll be building it from scatch I may extend my down to the bumper with a Quik pin to releave the load on the decklid and it's hinges. Once again thanks again. |
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rene p. l. Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2002 Posts: 280 Location: YQB, Québec, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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You need to remove some load from the decklid or cracks will appear...
Here is what I've found when I remove mine...
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xeno Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2006 Posts: 653 Location: Mile High
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Yea mine has the OG rear tire carrier. It to was cracked and rewelded on the engine hatch - back in the late 80's
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lukesky Samba Member

Joined: July 12, 2006 Posts: 246 Location: See The Rabbits, IA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone out there have the spare on the front or the hood? Thing Shop says their hood mount should only be used for off-road; anyone know why? I like the look, but you'd probably need another hood prop to hold the weight if you were going to use the newly found space in the trunk. _________________ You get what you get, and you don't throw a fit.
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xeno Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2006 Posts: 653 Location: Mile High
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: |
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lukesky wrote: |
Does anyone out there have the spare on the front or the hood? Thing Shop says their hood mount should only be used for off-road; anyone know why? I like the look, but you'd probably need another hood prop to hold the weight if you were going to use the newly found space in the trunk. |
Probably because of this.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
It's like that in most states.
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uberautowerks Samba Member

Joined: October 17, 2005 Posts: 1600 Location: Longmont Co
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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On a customers car, At 6' 2" I can see over his spare just fine. My 5' 5" wife about can't. Also your right, forget about opening the hood with the tire on there. Oh and you can't fold down the windshield. _________________ --- The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.
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'71 Single cab (White too)
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vwthingboy Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2004 Posts: 83 Location: NY, NY
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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This carrier was a unique one that surfaced at the German Motor works show 2005 and got posted in the Gallery.
It attaches to the bumper and one spot on the deck lid:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/206844.jpg
and open:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/206886.jpg
I like how the license plate holder is in the spare,
and the angle of the tire seems to match the decklid angle.
Nice work, and I assume it must be a custom one-off.
Looks like the car previously had the TS tire carrier, btw.
I know, it's not an ideal setup for engine access,
but maybe the owner puts a cushion on there and sits native-american style.  _________________ Duffer 2005-2012 |
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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lukesky wrote: |
Does anyone out there have the spare on the front or the hood? |
More info on mounting a tire on the hood can be found here...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=259676
As far as the Thing Shop rear tire carrier goes, I would also like to mention that you really need to factor in the weight of the tire on the carrier BEFORE you mount and secure the decklid bracket. The supplied paper template from the Thing Shop isn't 100% accurate so mounting the swing arm before you mount the decklid bracket is the best way to go. The tire weighs a lot and really effects how the swing arm latches to the decklid.
Also, (if you don't live in Arizona or southern California) you'll want to consider replacing the hardware that the Thing Shop supplies with stainless steel nuts and bolts. The supplied hardware developed surface rust mere weeks after I installed it (you can see the surface rust in the above photos - note that my Thing is kept in a garage year round). I have since replaced everything with stainless steel and it looks great. _________________
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Foxx Uncle Meat

Joined: August 27, 2001 Posts: 4897 Location: at the computer,.......DUH!
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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rene p. l. wrote: |
You need to remove some load from the decklid or cracks will appear...
Here is what I've found when I remove mine...
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cut a backing plate outta steel and that will reinforce that and spread the load over a wider area for the underside. _________________ Frank
OG JHC
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Fun 181 Zu Geil!

Joined: October 20, 2006 Posts: 1003 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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vwthingboy wrote: |
This carrier was a unique one that surfaced at the German Motor works show 2005 and got posted in the Gallery.
I know, it's not an ideal setup for engine access,
but maybe the owner puts a cushion on there and sits native-american style.  |
Ha! Yeah, I spotted these pics a while back and thought the same thing about accessing the engine. Having to work around the tire and carrier would be a real hassle. However, it seems like it offers better structural support than the Thing Shop's. Like I said before, it isn't well designed to support such a heavy load. _________________
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spaeth Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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The other issue with the tire carriers, is that unless you are very careful how you close them, it is very easy to dent the deck lid. Most cars I have seen with carriers have some kind of dent on that receiving end. I am not seeing that on the pictures of the cars shown here. I have had a factory one sitting in my garage forever but have always been afraid damaging the car. I would love the extra space up front though.
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Rev. Scott Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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all mounted up! the "template" is obviously just a reference! not settled on the license plate mount just yet...but for now it works!
...now i should get a spare that holds air, yes?! |
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