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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: testing gauges/ Now oil temp? (so i tested) |
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when i turn my 67 fastback on
the fuel gauge jolts up to the R
but wont read fuel level
is that the sender or possibly the gauge
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35916 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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With the key on, ground the wire at the sender unit. The gauge should read full. If not, it's the wire or the gauge. If grounding it makes it go to full, the sender is shot. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18046 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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It might be rubbing/stuck @ the R Mark? |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: |
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your saying to ground out the power wire to the sender and that should read full
and ill check for the stuck needle
but if it goes to full then the sender is bad
but if it doesnt then the wire or the gauge is bad
what is it supposed to do if its good and not just stuck
sender
wire
gauge |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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what about brake lights
will they only work if the brakes work
or is there a way to test the switches |
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35916 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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"your saying to ground out the power wire to the sender and that should read full "
Yes, except that wire is not a power wire, it goes to ground through the resistance in the sender unit, which varies with fuel level. Unplug the wire at the sender, and touch it to a ground (like a mounting screw).
If the gauge now reads full, you know the gauge is probably working.
If the gauge does not read full, the wire or gauge is defective. |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i played with it a liyyle and when i push the gauge to one side or the other it shoots up to full and a little bluish purple light shows up
what are the lights in a 67
1- ?the bright lights?
2- is the little light a fuel almost empty light
3- red- power
4- green - generator |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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put in an oil temp gauge
New vdo gauge
New vdo temp sender
moves when i turn on the key
BUT
doesnt read any temp
I checked and the wire from sender to gauge is good
and all the wires on the back And to the other two gauges are good
How Do I test the gauge and sender IN the car _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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COFBack Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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If your brakes don't work (ie no pressure at the master) your brake lights won't work since they sense pressure at the master (not pedal travel) _________________
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Air-Cooled Head Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: |
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sharkskinman wrote: |
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moves when i turn on the key
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doesnt read any temp
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Maybe a dumb question, but did you let the motor warm up any?
I don't know how to test in the car. _________________ Everything known to man has been written.
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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brakes work great now
Maybe a lil' bleeding needed but...
oil temp...
Thats why im asking
Its like 25 degrees outside
and i let her idle for about 10 - 15min or so
Then took her on a short drive (oil pressure down to about 25-30)
stopped in a parking lot
and checked the wires and what not.
Dont know how long it should take to get above 120
i have the flaps wired open
So i would think it would take longer,
but I havent had a chance to take her to the highway.
How long should it take to get it >120* this time of the year
When i hook it up it moves slightly
Makes me think that the gauge is working but??
what about a test light or a meter or something
to test to see if its -sending-or-receiving-or-???
"me" ...yeah, Not an electrician
I can read a multimeter OK
enough to see if its working
VDO senders and gauges (normally)
are 10-180 ohms, yes?
Just dont know what or how to test electronics _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35916 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Is that 120C or F? Might take longer for it to move if it is 120C (250F). |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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HA...
the gauge is a VDO oil temp
from 120* to 300*
I think when i get home i will take the "water" temp gauge (got it with the set off Ebay) and hook it up
Its the same style and rating as the oil temp
that will help me in figuring out if its the sender or the gauge. _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
Me of Course wrote: |
Extremity is relative to how far your willing to jump |
Ward Cleaver wrote: |
You ever try a pink golf ball, Wally? Why, the wind shear alone on a pink golf ball can take the head off a 90-pound midget at over 300 yards |
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sharkskinman Lateral Lunatic

Joined: April 26, 2006 Posts: 4045 Location: Deep In My Own Psyche
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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So i took the sender out of the case.
I hooked the sender up to the sender post on the gauge
and had to ground it to the light ground.
At first Nothing...
put it in what i thought was HOT water
obviously not hot enough.
Then i took a small torch to it and BAM it started to rise.
It grounds to the case , correct?
IS It that im not getting over like 140 in temp???
Isnt that too cool?
I have taken her on an, atleast, 20 miles or so there and back
and i dont see it go above 130 or 140 or so
thats why i thought the sender was broken...
I Just Dont Get It
I thought that idling for 10 to 15 minutes And a 40 mile drive
would take her atleast above 180
or is it maybe somethings not reading correct
I gotta get a candy thermometer or something. _________________ 74 Mexi Swamp Thing. 70 square volksrod (Swamp Rat)..65 C10
Me of Course wrote: |
Extremity is relative to how far your willing to jump |
Ward Cleaver wrote: |
You ever try a pink golf ball, Wally? Why, the wind shear alone on a pink golf ball can take the head off a 90-pound midget at over 300 yards |
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