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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Fog Lights Reply with quote

I have been diggin the look of foglights on a bus for a while now and was wondering who is running them? Pictures would be awesome!

I am trying to get an idea what setup I would like to go with, ie. size and color. Also, how are they mounted? I hate to drill into the bumper, is there any other way?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a pic of some fog lamps Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my fog lights
used the rear window defroster switch
they are swap meet lights and I drilled a hole in the bumper to mount
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of infor in this post...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=229474&highlight=fog+lights
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruptured Tortoise wrote:
Here's a pic of some fog lamps Laughing

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Wow that is a mess...

Tom, I like your set up, do they shut off with the headlights?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully Wayne won't mind me posting this for him. Here's his Charlie Brown, with his brand new paint showing off his discrete, but functional fog lights.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Defroster? I don't need no stinking defroster!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the option fog lights on my bus... I threw them out cause I thought they weren't an option for my westy, turned out they were. I now wish I had those fog lights.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got these retro looking ones brand new. But I can't think of where now.
I'll post if I think of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used these lights: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=49145
Great looks, quality and price. I did have to drill into the bumper, just about any lights will require doing so because of how close the bumper sits to the body.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I like the amber lights like some of the examples above, I don't like the idea of holes in the bumper but if it has to be done...

I might try fliping it and using the lower holes, we will see
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The holes are little...maybe 3/8" Easily plugged.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's our '79. Drilled the holes before I painted the bumper - no big deal.

Enjoy!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain to me why fog lights are necessary. Do they just augment the lighting from your headlights or are they somehow special lights that will help you see through a low lying fog? Is the Amber glass of the fog lights of some significance too? I really like the look of them, but I just want to understand the practicality of them before I mount a set on my bumper. thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fog lights are nice too have when it actually is foggy, but in heavy rain and snow can decrease your visibility. I prefer to have them on all my cars because they have a wider beam that lights up the side of the road nicely and you can see all the deer/racoons/ect easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The low, wide angle amber light cuts through fog and increases visibility...

I know Nigel Skeet had suggested putting fog lights and driving lights on his bus, one for foggy condtions and one for greater visibility in other conditions. I would wonder how it would look with two sets of lights, one amber and one clear? Nigel could pipe in here, he is always helpful with information and pictures...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yellow fraction of light has a long wavelength so it doesn't get bent out of shape and scattered as easily as the shorter blue wavelengths (seen with sky, water). THis is why it penetrates better. There is an intensity penalty though as the yellow lights aren't as bright as white at the same wattage. For the bus with its higher placed hi/low bulbs, fogs get the light lower helping light the road better with less glare for the driver.

I run some heavy juice bulbs in both my H4s and fog lights so I can't run both together. The yellow are nice because they do stand out more and work better in fog. In my winter car I have the ability to run both the low beam and fog at the same time and prefer having both white.

There is a bulb available which burns yellow - iodine crystal I think. You can buy clear lamps and change the bulb colour to either colour, just stay away from those blue colour HID mimiky bulbs for fog lights.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Mounting front fog lights Reply with quote

calebmelvin wrote:
The low, wide angle amber light cuts through fog and increases visibility...

I know Nigel Skeet had suggested putting fog lights and driving lights on his bus, one for foggy condtions and one for greater visibility in other conditions. I would wonder how it would look with two sets of lights, one amber and one clear? Nigel could pipe in here, he is always helpful with information and pictures...


What! Someone taking my name in vain again!

I have yet to transfer those lights over to my British specification, 1973 VW Type 2, so I don't have any pictures to show you. They looked quite elegant, with two above and two below the front bumper, of my 1974 Triumph Toledo 1300.

Both pairs of 7-inch, Lucas 20/20 Homofocal rally lamps (i.e. front fog & auxiliary driving lamps, have clear lens and the option of either 55W or 100W H3 quartz-halogen bulbs).

The following link, pretty much summarises my thoughts on front & rear fog lights.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...mp;start=0

If I recall correctly, the USA based, automotive lighting consultant, Daniel J. Stern, presents an interesting discussion on his website, about the relative merits of white and yellow light, for front fog lights.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/light_color.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calebmelvin wrote:
Nigel could pipe in here, she is always helpful with information and pictures and useless drivel...


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Mounting front fog lights Reply with quote

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[Both pairs of 7-inch, Lucas 20/20 Homofocal rally lamps


Not LUCAS! I had a '95 range rover classic lwb county and every problem was directly related to the dreaded L company.
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