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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:35 pm Post subject: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Is the Tri-Mill Hotdog exhaust a "reasonable" match for a mild (W110, 8:1 CR, Dual Kadron, 1835) build? The pipe is 1.5", So I would think it is reasonable... Or would it incur too much back pressure and create heat in the heads?
Or should I just bite the bullet and get the Vintage Speed Sport exhaust.
I want Pea-Shooter like experience and look. |
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4368 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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I ran it on a 1641 with Kads waay back. It ran ok. I guess it depends on what you're after. If you care more about looks over power, run it. If you want all your power or more, you'll want a header system. There are real headers that still retain stock exits.
Why not just run a AA Sidewinder, and attach fake pea shooters with a bracket or something? |
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Brian Samba Moderator

Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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The hot dogs are loud, so if you want a car for a long drive then that's not the exhaust for you. Get a 4-to-1 merged header, power over looks. _________________ Wash your hands
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Hmmm...
Sidewinders put a drone inside the cab. I was trying to avoid that noise. I don't like the looks of a PHAT BOY or a Quiet Pack hanging out the back...
Mind you this is temporary.
I think I'll ultimately get a Vintage Speed exhaust.
Maybe I should just bite the bullet and get that now.
NO I am not trying to get every last HP out of my motor, but I also don't want to purchase something that will have NEGATIVE effects on my motor EITHER  |
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7786 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Holy crap! That is a monstrosity!!!!
Talk about turning a 10m valve adjustment into a 2hr job... WOW!
Did I mention I wanted to keep the cost low for now?
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7786 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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If youre that bad with a wrench I think you have the wrong hobby. It normally takes about 15 minutes extra for me.
And no. It is not monstrous, it is just compact, and a very nice exhaust for the 80 to 130ish hp Window. |
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Alstrup wrote: |
If youre that bad with a wrench I think you have the wrong hobby. It normally takes about 15 minutes extra for me.
And no. It is not monstrous, it is just compact, and a very nice exhaust for the 80 to 130ish hp Window. |
I might have been exaggerating when I said 2hrs; but seriously, I hated having to remove the muffler off my sidewinder, and went to a merged header on my last build, so ya, removing the muffler on both sides... nah.
I literally check my valves every month no matter how few miles I drive it, as it is so easy to do. I love the simplicity. I almost went ALL STOCK with my new build, but I feared I would miss the power I had with my 1915 motor from my previous build, so ya, K.I.S.S. (as possible).
Don't get my wrong, I love that exhaust, just not my cup of tea. |
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Doktor Samba Member

Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 100 Location: Croatia, Europe
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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CSP exhaust is really excellent quality. - buy once, cry once.
It also looks very good on any bug.
It is very easy to disconnect both sides for valve adjustment.
Here's mine:
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andk5591 Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16796 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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I dynoed the Tri-Mill hot dog on my wifes mild 1600 and also reviewed other test data and it performs well. I dont think I would use one for 2 liter or larger though unless I wasnt concerned about top end.
BUT it is loud...we used it for a year and she had to crank the radio to hear it so we switched to a single quiet pack ( 1 3/ . Much better.
I like the hideaways when sound and good performance is a concern, but also there is a budget. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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bugguy1967 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 4368 Location: Los Angeles, CA 90016
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Good choice! I'd suggest modifying it for an O2 sensor and tuning your engine afterward. Your probably going to be leaner than before. |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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I must be stupid again....so how does a side winder cause a drone inside the cab ? it's just a merged system that's aimed another way...I wonder why my car dosent have a drone in it it's collector aims a different way too... |
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
I must be stupid again....so how does a side winder cause a drone inside the cab ? it's just a merged system that's aimed another way...I wonder why my car dosent have a drone in it it's collector aims a different way too... |
I had a sidewinder and it had a drone on the passenger side... i removed it for a standard merged header with dual quiet packs and the drone in the cab went away! |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 23017 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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mark tucker wrote: |
I must be stupid again....so how does a side winder cause a drone inside the cab ? it's just a merged system that's aimed another way...I wonder why my car dosent have a drone in it it's collector aims a different way too... |
Because its a "harmonic".
When you are getting a harmonically induced sound wave.....what produces it can be aimed any way you want or even be mounted anywhere you want....and it will STILL radiate sound waves......in all directions. And ....if any of those sound waves contact ANY surface....whose size, shape, stiffness etc....can be set to vibrate at that same frequency....that surface in effect becomes the equivalent of the diaphragm in a speaker.
That surface will re-radiate that harmonic frequency. It some cases it can damp it in other cases it can increases the affect like a parabolic dish. So....it does not matter so much on what side or which way its facing when its making the sound. It can end up in the cabin.
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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purchased the Tri-Mil 2 Tip Euro. I really wanted to have a "stock looking" exhaust. It arrives this weekend. I hope to have my motor back this weekend, too. However, I need to get my transmission mounts replaced, and I also need to get my Tar Boards for the engine bay, paint the engine bay, and generally do some cleanup since the engine is out.
Also need to fix a leak in my rear hub. Trans fluid is dripping out of the drum.
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Look what came in the mail this weekend! I can't wait to get it mounted and to hear that sweet tone! |
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Dake Samba Member

Joined: September 02, 2014 Posts: 483 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Any update on how you like this exhaust. |
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kevlarian Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2014 Posts: 636 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Tri-Mill Hotdog Exhaust for 1835? |
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Dake wrote: |
Any update on how you like this exhaust. |
I'm trying to get my motor mounted this weekend! |
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