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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Almost a VW (NSU 1200c) Reply with quote

You will have to excuse me guys as there realy is no where to post this on the web, other than in an air cooled vw place, and since when it was produced after the VW buyout it has a lot of VW parts and logos. (Plus its kind of in the same vein as a type 3 right, haha!)


I just picked up a one owner 45,000 mile 1971 NSU 1200c with the very similar to VW Automatik three speed. Still wearing original paint and interior, this car spent its whole registered life in one garage in Beverly, Mass, after languishing on the dealers lot in New Jersey for TWO YEARS! I have the original owner Massachusetts title dated Oct 17th 1973, from Val's Chilton Hill Sales and Service in Elizabeth NJ. Making this possibily one of the last NSU's sold new in the states. The original owner Charles Kern I am told by his widow was an NSU enthusiast, owning seven during his life time and visiting the factory on more than one occasion. She related a few stories to me about how he use to get in heated discusions with his car friends about which was better the NSU or BMW. I wish I could have talked to him about the car but unfortunatly he passed recently.
The car does need a few things and did not run when I picked it up, but after replacing the ignition it does crank, all of the electrical is in working order, and now the fuel pump is the final (hopefully) link in getting it running! Once its up and running there are a few rust spots on the rockers and lower fenders that need some attention, but the floors, engine bay, shock towers and trunk are spotless!

Enough talking.......on to the pics! Very Happy

Front.....Love the 'Simulated' grille
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Rear.....does any one know what the exhuast is. It almost looks aftermarket, especialy since there is a single pipe cut out on the passengers side of the lower valence :screwy:
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The right taillamp needs replacing..
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Super clean and most imoprtantly complete interior...
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Mint, mint, mint headliner........
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Only interior flaw, sun damage on the rear seat top...
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Actual mileage!
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Once I get it cleaned and running I will post some more pics, I have been to excited working on it to even take any under hood shots yet!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's in really nice shape. You don't see too many of them anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it took about a week of figuring out wiring, deciphering old diagrams and trying to understand the semi-auto transmision but heres proof it runs! Very Happy

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This thing runs so nice, no shakes, no rattles, surprising amount of tourque for a 1200cc four. The non-power disc drum combo does a very nice job slowing down the 1500 pound car. I am having so much fun tooling this little thing around!

A couple more beauty shots from friday night, the inugural cruise! (so before it was cleaned!)

So small!!
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So after that drive, I took the girlfriend out for her first drive in it. and promptly broke down about 20 miles from home :banghead:
The previous owner instaled a Mark Ten capacitive ignition, fairly common in the aircooled VW world and affectionatly known as the "singing aluminum brick" due to the high pitched wine it emits when the ignition is on. The other thing they are also known for is cooking themselves into submision, which is what mine did. So after a quick AAA tow home, I bypassed it and it started right up! So far so good!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a neat little car. Thanks for the interesting write-up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a cool car, I love the exhaust. Any pictures of the engine? Is it air cooled?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's a cool car, I love the exhaust. Any pictures of the engine? Is it air cooled?


Yup, air cooled inline four! After some research but no conclusive evidence, the exhaust appears to be an aftermarket OG Abarth system.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gather you changed the plates when you licensed it? Looks like a fun little car to play with.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see pics of the engine, to see how they aircooled an inline 4.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of saying almost a Vw, almost an Audi is probably closer. The front on that car looks very similar to an Audi super 90, of the same vintage.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to comment on how close it looks to a BMW 2002. Neat car, please post pictures of the engine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

66busman wrote:
I was going to comment on how close it looks to a BMW 2002. Neat car, please post pictures of the engine.


X2!... The body lines, dash, seats, engine configuration, bumpers, all early 70's 2002.

Amazing find! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never seen one of those before, pretty sweet!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slam it, on earlies...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed about the BMW 2002, there is a lot of 2002 in it, along with a bit of VW and Corvair.

Cool little car, now lets see the engine!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffDeWitt wrote:
Agreed about the BMW 2002, there is a lot of 2002 in it, along with a bit of VW and Corvair.

Cool little car, now lets see the engine!



My though has always been, they took an early 1600 BMW 2002, Corvair and kind of mushed them together!

73sports wrote:
Instead of saying almost a Vw, almost an Audi is probably closer. The front on that car looks very similar to an Audi super 90, of the same vintage.


When VW bought out NSU in '67 they used it to form Audi/Nsu and in fact on the engine ID tag under the hood it says AudiNSU-USA. So maybe you are right. Still its owned by VW and aircooled. so I stick by my original post!

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I'd like to see pics of the engine, to see how they aircooled an inline 4.


I will take some pics tommorow when I am doing the plugs, wires, cap, rotor and points. Its a pretty simple design with an aluminum block, two cast finned jugs side by side and a thin aluminum head with an overhead cam in a seperate housing and individual rocker covers, quite wild for the time considering that the design goes back to the early 60's

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I gather you changed the plates when you licensed it? Looks like a fun little car to play with.

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Thanks, it is a blast!
Yeah, the plates on the car in the first pics where just thrown on the car so the AAA tow truck driver would not ask questions when I had him tow it to my house, lol! The Antique plates are the current ones!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this foo Laughing



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay youre right.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brad! Old Navy is selling surfer shorts with a NSU 1200 on them. Check out the "ghia guys take notice" thread in the Type 3 Forum. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of owns an NSU Prinz and its pretty damn cool just how things work.
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