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injac3p
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: FINALLY PRIMED!! with PICS Reply with quote

So after 1.5 years of tearing this down and doing bodywork I have finally primed almost everything and begun block sanding!

I have three questions I expect people to answer for lookin at the pics!:
1) Should I mount the doors, hood, and decklid prior final coat and paint it all in one go? The major thing to consider is that there is extremely little room in my garage...basically they have to be on or I have to do them at a seperate time.

2) after guidecoating/sanding is this the final steps for painting: another coat of primer, sealer immediately after, single stage paint immediately after. with no sanding inbetween (just tack rag) these wet on wet on each other.

3) should i just completely drop the idea of doing a dark color or a metallic color? i am shooting single stage either Omni or Finish 1 (sherwin williams) paints with a Devilbiss conventional style gun

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a rookie at this but here's my opinion for what it's worth:

1) Leave the doors and stuff off. You could do the fenders on the car if you leave a good gap to the body. You are starting from scratch and have no original paint in the jambs for blending. Paint the body, let it sit a few days, roll it outside and paint the rest. If you do this in the morning you will be able to move the car back in by evening.
2)Use a light coat of primer/sealer for a base then go directly to your final paint while it's still somewhat wet.
3)As a first timer I would stay away from a metallic. Darker colors shouldn't be an issue if you have done a good job on prep and you get the paint on smooth. I would stay away from Omni. I shot my first coat on my car and stopped. I ended up wet sanding and getting Delstar. I was much happier with the color and the way it sprayed. I'm not familiar with Finish 1.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good!
Congrats on the progress.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well this is just the body on the pan right now with no wheels/suspension so i cant really roll it outside. perhaps I should add these and then could I paint the body, roll it outside within an hr or two?, bring in the doors&decklid&hood and then paint those?

or the other option is that I could paint the door jambs, edges of the doors etc, then mount these items and spray everything else? would blending be a problem because this paint wouldve been sprayed before the rest? also would this require waiting too long so that the primer/sealer would have sat too long?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the whole point of going wet on wet is for a good bond. If you let the primer/sealer sit to long it will "skin" over and you won't have a good bond for the finish coats.
Going by the PPG spec sheet I got when I bought my paint you should let it sit at least 4 hours (depending on air temp) before doing much with the car or you could run the risk of getting hand prints in the paint.
If you can get some wheels on the car, I would do it in a two step process. Do the main body and possibly the fenders (on loose) on one day. Then do the rest of the parts in a day or two.

I did my car all at once, but I had the original paint in the door jambs and I was trying to match it as close as possible.
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