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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: squirter for wipers/ shifter Reply with quote

any body know where to get the hose line that goes from spare to windshield washer zirt?
and.. any thoughts on empi shifters, I put a short shift kit in my beetle and tend to shift into 4th when i mean to shift to second. yeah yeah, i know.

gene berg shifter vs. empi? Question
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For windshield wiper hose I used that light blue silicone hose from a aquarium store. Edit; so far, little over a year, the silicone tubbing hasn't got hard or degraded at all.
Never had a GB or Empi shifter, but I do have a short shift kit on the stock shifter and adjustment is everything. You'll want to move the shifter away from the gear your having problems with.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most auto parts stores have a massive selection of hoses from fuel line to vacume hose. Sometimes you need to ask because they keep short pieces on the sales floor and BIG rolls in the back.

Just measure how long a piece you need and what size. Vacume hose would work best for this type of application because it is designed not to collapse or kink shut.

The aquarium hose will also work, but it will get harder with age and loose it's elasticity
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you already try Ovals Motorsport and Bow Wow?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: wiper squirter Reply with quote

what do i need for the bottle end of the squirter? besides hose?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming you are referring to the washer fluid reservoir. Do you have the cap (shown at http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=510260 with the hose going into it)?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: squirter Reply with quote

I guess what i meant is.... well i have the reservoir, what goes into the air valve on top of the reservoir? how does it connect to the spare??

thanks for the help
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: squirter Reply with quote

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I guess what i meant is.... well i have the reservoir, what goes into the air valve on top of the reservoir? how does it connect to the spare??

thanks for the help


The air valve is a typical schrader valve. What goes into it?....a tire pump or air hose to pressurize the bottle so you can use it.

I think the hose from the spare to the bottle was an accessory until after 67.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: squirter for wipers/ shifter Reply with quote

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gene berg shifter vs. empi? Question


Berg, but I wouldn't get either. No point in having a high performance shifter and a stock bug.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: shifter Reply with quote

hey thanks, not stock, 2110 cc with dual webber 40's not stock on tranny either, of course,

me thinks to go with the Berg. thanks !
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: schrader valve. squirter Reply with quote

yes, schrader valve, but where do i get the hose that goes from the tire to the bottle. ? is it something you pump air into and depletes as you use it.?

i would think not. I will check with Wolfsberg west and others.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: schrader valve. squirter Reply with quote

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yes, schrader valve, but where do i get the hose that goes from the tire to the bottle. ? is it something you pump air into and depletes as you use it.?

i would think not. I will check with Wolfsberg west and others.


Bingo!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had Berg shifters and the cheap ones too. Both worked fine but I like the Berg--much better made and it looks cool. It shouts out: I have excess cash for quality! I do though wish they would strop making those horrible looking handles and return to some of the older style grips that were much better looking.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: schrader valve. squirter Reply with quote

okar wrote:
yes, schrader valve, but where do i get the hose that goes from the tire to the bottle. ? is it something you pump air into and depletes as you use it.?

i would think not. I will check with Wolfsberg west and others.


You pump air into the tank and it depletes over time. Later on ('68, I think?) , though, the reservoir got its pressure from the spare tire. I believe this was offered as an option or accessory at some earlier point.

The whole setup is ridiculous, of course. I'd much rather have a 1961-style setup and pump it myself instead Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want it to work, you could always install a modern bottle with the built in electric pump.

but that wouldn't be original.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd much rather have a 1961-style setup and pump it myself instead


No, really, you wouldn't.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I admit I've never used one, but it seems more satisfying than just holding down a button.

At this point, it sounds more appealing than that I've got, which is no squirter at all. I've got two original switches, and neither holds any pressure. I know the 2 speed switches can be retrofitted, but I want to stay with an original switch. It's getting rainy in Seattle, and I'm thoroughly enjoying my correct switch (the car had a 2 speed with non-functional squirter when I got it) even though the squirter doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: schrader valve. squirter Reply with quote

snj wrote:
You pump air into the tank and it depletes over time. Later on ('68, I think?) , though, the reservoir got its pressure from the spare tire. I believe this was offered as an option or accessory at some earlier point.


Yeah, it was. I think it was an option starting soon after they introduced the air-pressure system.


In my baja I've got a washer bottle from a Rabbit with the electric pump, with a switch under the dash for it. Works pretty good, but I have thought about putting it back stock sometime. I've seldom had any issues with my other bug, a stock 1962 - that is, AFTER I put in a new wiper switch. (I remember the old switch, when it failed on me as I pressurized the tank, and it blowing its button out the dashboard and water jetting out of the hole) The first few years after I put in the new switch, I just filled the tire with a tire pump. Later on though, I scored one of those aforementioned accessory tire connection hoses, and have used it ever since. Mine differs a little bit from the one described in the Bentley VW 1200 Workshop manual in that it just has a pressure valve in it to keep the spare from going flat, no fill or cutoff valve.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Not Original Reply with quote

drscope wrote:
If you really want it to work, you could always install a modern bottle with the built in electric pump.

but that wouldn't be original.


Mine has one of these and works real well.

http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=2.4525

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: schrader valve. squirter Reply with quote

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In my baja I've got a washer bottle from a Rabbit with the electric pump, with a switch under the dash for it. Works pretty good, but I have thought about putting it back stock sometime.


The Rabbit reservoir (at least the one on a '79) has a rather strange shape. How did you mount it?

dantrefethen wrote:
Mine has one of these and works real well.

http://www.mamotorworks.com/acvw?frame=2.4525


For 6V types, cip1 has this: http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D111%2D989%2D453

I'm sure they work well, but I don't want an extra switch in my cabin. I may have to take my chances on an NOS switch (or convince Wolfsbürg West to make some repros).
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