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twandre Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2008 Posts: 60 Location: Beloit, WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Weighty Westy |
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In terms of pounds, what is the weight difference beyween a standard bay and a mid 70's westy? Reduction in weight should mean better fuel economy.
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52780 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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VDubTech Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9156 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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It's too easy to have someone else do the work for you. Nobody tries to answer questions for themselves anymore. Pathetic. |
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twandre Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2008 Posts: 60 Location: Beloit, WI
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Once again I am in the cross hairs of the pc search police. I guess I am what you people say I am, lazy, stupid and pathetic. Guess you never know unless you ask.
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid

Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8576 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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twandre wrote: |
. Guess you never know unless you ask.
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But if you had searched, you would have known. _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
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chazz79 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 2268 Location: ohio
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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a forum site that never has new posts is dead. Lock this bitch down and call it an archive. I can't believe how many questions are answered "do a search idiot, Or read a bentley"
There are so many oppinionated asses on here that reply to posts with absolutely no intention of being a help. I don't want to be one of those people sooooooooooo
My bus is a 1973 westy interior, no poptop, I've had it on a scale and it weighs 3125lbs
Look! useful information and not regurgitated crap, anything is possible on the samba |
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VDubTech Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9156 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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chazz79 wrote: |
a forum site that never has new posts is dead. Lock this bitch down and call it an archive. I can't believe how many questions are answered "do a search idiot, Or read a bentley"
There are so many oppinionated asses on here that reply to posts with absolutely no intention of being a help. I don't want to be one of those people sooooooooooo
My bus is a 1973 westy interior, no poptop, I've had it on a scale and it weighs 3125lbs
Look! useful information and not regurgitated crap, anything is possible on the samba |
You've been here 2 months. Come back in 4 years and let me know how you feel about the question being asked that's been answered 38934870933850385 times already. In fact, in the sticky entitled "READ THIS FIRST BEFORE POSTING... BAY WINDOW HELP!!!!," right smack in the middle of it is this:
"The SEARCH button is your friend! 90% of the time what you are looking for has already been discussed (at least once). SEARCH before you ask!"
Those are the rules of this forum. Being that I do not own said forum and would like to keep it available as a resource, we should all FOLLOW DIRECTIONS from the person who does own the site. Get it now? |
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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VDubTech wrote: |
chazz79 wrote: |
a forum site that never has new posts is dead... I can't believe how many questions are answered "do a search idiot, Or read a bentley"
My bus is a 1973 westy interior, no poptop, I've had it on a scale and it weighs 3125lbs
Look! useful information and not regurgitated crap, anything is possible on the samba |
You've been here 2 months. Come back in 4 years and let me know how you feel about the question being asked that's been answered 38934870933850385 times |
Ive been here 5 years and I never hassle people about searching. so i will suggest that part of it has to do with YOU. have a nice day...
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jwcurry Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2007 Posts: 567
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Everything should be a sticky!!
I don't ask many questions here, because I know the answer..."do a search".
If I don't find it, I look elsewhere on the internet...there are some places that are more tolerant. |
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Jerry Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2007 Posts: 1367
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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It's a damn shame that someone can't ask a reasonable question on this site without being blasted because of a failed search, punctuation, etc... This person was more than likely trying to figure out load ratings for a new set of tires, or seeing if the tires on his/her vehicle now are dangerous. Sometimes the pissing contests on this site amuses me, but my God, does anyone ever consider the more friends you have, the more help you have? The world absolutely does not care if you're sour. Who knows?,... the next person you reply to may become a lifelong friend. What a wonderful thing this interest between us is! Impressionable kids could be asking seasoned vets of this site questions about busses. That's a far cry from asking some dope dealer for some crack! _________________ Looking for SO34 parts.
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VDubTech Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9156 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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dansvans wrote: |
VDubTech wrote: |
chazz79 wrote: |
a forum site that never has new posts is dead... I can't believe how many questions are answered "do a search idiot, Or read a bentley"
My bus is a 1973 westy interior, no poptop, I've had it on a scale and it weighs 3125lbs
Look! useful information and not regurgitated crap, anything is possible on the samba |
You've been here 2 months. Come back in 4 years and let me know how you feel about the question being asked that's been answered 38934870933850385 times |
Ive been here 5 years and I never hassle people about searching. so i will suggest that part of it has to do with YOU. have a nice day...
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I'll suggest you read the post again. I said nothing about the search, BusDaddy did. He also asked a question which I answered, then the onslaught of whining began. |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3068 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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The ride: Riviera Sundowner with full top sleeping, bottom Z-bed, folding table, NO CABINETRY.
Me, my g/f, two toddlers, camping gear and some food left-overs with 1/2 tank of gas after a two-night camp out: 3800 pounds.
Minus human weight: 3450#
Minus gas weight and food (rough estimate): 3400#
Thank goodness I have a 2.0L w/stock FI! _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3068 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Weighty Westy |
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twandre wrote: |
In terms of pounds, what is the weight difference beyween a standard bay and a mid 70's westy? Reduction in weight should mean better fuel economy.
Thom |
Define standard Bay. No camping interior? Pop-top?
Reduction in weight will mean better fuel economy. Better power to weight ratio so better acceleration, too. Proper truck-type tires, well-maintained drivetrain, driving style and speed, all affect mileage. I wonder if anyone will make a carbon-fiber engine lid to help reduce weight?
But what fun is a plain ol' Bus?  _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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fireman9027 Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2007 Posts: 178 Location: East Coast FL
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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jerry's70westy wrote: |
It's a damn shame that someone can't ask a reasonable question on this site without being blasted because of a failed search, punctuation, etc... This person was more than likely trying to figure out load ratings for a new set of tires, or seeing if the tires on his/her vehicle now are dangerous. Sometimes the pissing contests on this site amuses me, but my God, does anyone ever consider the more friends you have, the more help you have? The world absolutely does not care if you're sour. Who knows?,... the next person you reply to may become a lifelong friend. What a wonderful thing this interest between us is! Impressionable kids could be asking seasoned vets of this site questions about busses. That's a far cry from asking some dope dealer for some crack! |
X2, and god forbid someone asks a tire question, with the almighty "tire sticky" here. That post has so many pages it should have it's own search... |
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tatersgravy Samba Member

Joined: October 11, 2004 Posts: 833
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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VDubTech wrote: |
dansvans wrote: |
VDubTech wrote: |
chazz79 wrote: |
a forum site that never has new posts is dead... I can't believe how many questions are answered "do a search idiot, Or read a bentley"
My bus is a 1973 westy interior, no poptop, I've had it on a scale and it weighs 3125lbs
Look! useful information and not regurgitated crap, anything is possible on the samba |
You've been here 2 months. Come back in 4 years and let me know how you feel about the question being asked that's been answered 38934870933850385 times |
Ive been here 5 years and I never hassle people about searching. so i will suggest that part of it has to do with YOU. have a nice day...
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I'll suggest you read the post again. I said nothing about the search, BusDaddy did. He also asked a question which I answered, then the onslaught of whining began. |
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jah_B Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 1147 Location: Tempe, AZ
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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The best new questions and interesting threads are far too infrequent. The best questions get the best help and responses, and they don't even have to be altogether original, just not stupid, or obviously lazy.
If one doesn't know instinctively and immediately why one's own, or for that matter, any given post is stupid or lazy, one probably is now posting, or has recently posted one.
My plan: Wait out the cycle of ignorance, stupidity, illiteracy (never happen), and disrespect for the forum and its highly skilled and knowledgeable members. It'll be more interesting and __________ again someday. Or not.  _________________ 1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s
1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus
You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52780 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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My sincere apologies for stirring this up, there was around 5 new threads this morning asking questions that could easily be answered with a simple search. Some were noobs, some have been around long enough to know better and get off their asses, I just lost it. I'm back on the meds now and everythings better
Did the OP manage to figure out that a 75 (mid 70's) campmobile weighs 254 lbs more than a station wagon and 375 lbs more than a kombi with no interior at all? Early interiors without the fridge and stove weigh a bit less. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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itlives Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2005 Posts: 1424 Location: Shreveport La
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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I've a question.
Can anyone weigh their vehichle on the scales on the interstate and is it free? |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52780 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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It is in Canada, I always go by when they are closed anyways, the scale is still operational and you don't have to get out of the way of some trucks. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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bug-nuts Samba Member

Joined: April 30, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: S.E. Kansas
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: |
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A lot of industrial companies have scales for bulk load out along with land fills. I don't know how tight security is in your area, but out here in the sticks most of these scales are accessible. Co-op feed houses and concrete yards usually have them also. I work for a company that builds weighing/packaging equipment and can tell you all scales are calibrated to work within a defined range. The further outside of that range the more drift it will have. Considering drive on truck scales are calibrated for much heavier loads then a bus your weigh could be off by one hundred pounds or more, but they will get you in the ballpark. _________________ Whoever smelt it, dealt it.
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1978 Westy
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