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runsplit
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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: fuse box nut |
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I would like to know how to resolve this problem.
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The threads of the nut were drilled by the previous owner.
Where could I found these nuts?
Thanks for your help. |
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eurodub
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you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is...
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vintagemx0
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You could drill those out and tack-weld on some T Nuts.
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ZwitterND
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Use a thread insert? Google Helicoil
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virtanen
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| eurodub wrote: |
you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is... |
I would make the same way. |
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| virtanen wrote: |
| eurodub wrote: |
you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is... |
I would make the same way. |
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r39o
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Fastest fix: Use BIGGER screws to match the holes!
Quick fix: Use flat sheet metal "speed nuts" from behind.
Use small "nutserts."
The above require no welding.
Hardest is to weld and redrill for the correct sheet metal screws..... |
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splitjunkie
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they aren't sheet metal screws. They are machine screws. That is why the insert is there.
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VWwerks
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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For sure plug weld them, drill and tap new threads...good as new.
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r39o
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just put in a nutsert then. Done.
If you insist, you can put a weld nut in. |
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twinwindows
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
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| eurodub wrote: |
you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is... |
I would make the same way. |
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ZwitterND
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All that work for two holes, drag out the welder, find the gloves , worry about sparks igniting the tank, grinding the surface, find a place to ground, welding, grinding then determing the center to center, hoping your drill goes straight and doesnt break when hits the now tempered steel then hoping the tap doesn't break...phew. Mean while, I grab the drill, no need to center punch, enlarge the hole, run a tap thru, put some red loc-tite on the insert, install insert, BAM! I am done having a cold one. 
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vintagemx0
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runsplit hasn't chimed back in since his initial inquiry. 'Lots of good suggestions have been given. I wonder what path he/she will take? I'm thinking now just use the existing large holes and just use a bolt and nut without welding the nut, maybe a drop of loc-tite. How many times are you going to need to R&R the item anyway?
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johnshenry
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Depends on how much of a "purist" you are obviously..... 
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ZwitterND
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Hey John the ultimate "purist" would replace the entire quarter panel ...bwahaha...I kill me
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runsplit
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| Depends on how much of a "purist" you are obviously..... |
Sorry I was out for a while.
I tries to be the closest possible of the original because I restore completely the car.
That's why no bigger screw.... no no no. Not like original even if no one can see it when closed. and of course no sheet metal behind.
My first idea was of course to weld and drill.I have to pay attention at this moment because it should be harder.
I read somewhere helicoil are not sure for small diameters...and it's just a fuse box.
I thought these special nuts exist and I still haven't noticed them.
Something like this:http://www.clufix.com/ENGLISH/produits_tab2.htm
Thanks for your help. |
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I was thinking about a "panel nut" to like these. It would work well, but still not look correct. Welding, drilling and tapping really isn't that hard.
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runsplit
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| eurodub wrote: |
you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is... |
Holes are filled. Now I would tlike to know the diameter to drill. Are they M4 or M5 threads?
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52crotch
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| I believe they are 5mm x .7 or .8. Just fixed those on my '52 |
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virtanen
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| Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| runsplit wrote: |
| eurodub wrote: |
you may fill them with mig welding, then drill with a small diameter and then tap new threads...
my opinion, that is... |
Holes are filled. Now I would tlike to know the diameter to drill. Are they M4 or M5 threads?
Thanks |
Spare catalog says 5x15 mm (N 010 702 1) |
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