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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: alternator Reply with quote

just curious,

could just about any alternator be used on a late T3...say, one from a chevrolet?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes any alt will work but few fit right I can walk you thou my geo merto alt if you need one
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need one that is about the same diameter as the stock generator. So it will sit down right on fan housing.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a brand new alt here i may try to make work. when i got my air cooled i was oblivious to how generators work. I put my stereo, 2 subs and 2000 watt amp in the car and was rattling my neighbors windows........for about 20 mins. then my car wouldnt start. thats how i learned about generators. too funny
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: alternator Reply with quote

Buttafuoco wrote:
just curious,

could just about any alternator be used on a late T3...say, one from a chevrolet?

In a word, no.

As stated above, you have an engine lid to contend with and a cradle that is integral to the fan housing so you're [ideally] limited to smaller units. The one in my baby is from a fork lift Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: alternator Reply with quote

Air_Cooled_Nut wrote:
Buttafuoco wrote:
just curious,

could just about any alternator be used on a late T3...say, one from a chevrolet?

In a word, no.

As stated above, you have an engine lid to contend with and a cradle that is integral to the fan housing so you're [ideally] limited to smaller units. The one in my baby is from a fork lift Wink

I run without an engine cover and some decklid standoffs that I fabbed but i do understand the "cradle" area at the fan housing. For the most part i was wondering if the general mechanics of typical alternators would work in an air cooled which they do being yours is from a forklift. Thanks for the feedback. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

might i ask why you are running stand offs and no engine lid?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't find his alt find a 3 cylinder geo metro and steal its. Lot easier. Look for the post ddb altertor and there's pics of mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=332818

and this website helped me a lot dont know who wrote thou but major creds..
http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anybody wanting an alternator I can hook you up.I have all new parts and the right alternators,already modified.cheaper than ddb too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolfman's brother wrote:
anybody wanting an alternator I can hook you up.I have all new parts and the right alternators,already modified.cheaper than ddb too.


what are your prices like?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ran one from an rx7 once in my old fastback, seemed to fit good. but not as good as the ddb one

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

j5josher wrote:
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and this website helped me a lot dont know who wrote thou but major creds..
http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm

Look at my signature line and do the math Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air_Cooled_Nut wrote:
j5josher wrote:
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and this website helped me a lot dont know who wrote thou but major creds..
http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/gen2alt.htm

Look at my signature line and do the math Wink Laughing


I'll have to add my thanks to you for that article as well....


My generator died Tuesday night on the way home from work so i'll be printing a copy and following your direction this weekend.

edit: did your alt come with a built in voltage regulator? If so, did you take the old voltage regulator out of your T3?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regulator is built-in so you simply bypass the stock unit. It's in my instructions Wink

For other alternators please see the main page:
http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/generator.html

If anyone has success stories with some specifics then please email me. If it's good I'll add it to the page.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air_Cooled_Nut wrote:
Regulator is built-in so you simply bypass the stock unit. It's in my instructions Wink

For other alternators please see the main page:
http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/engine/generator.html

If anyone has success stories with some specifics then please email me. If it's good I'll add it to the page.


lol sorry, haven't read them that in-depth yet. I told you over the weekend! Laughing I'll email you and let you know how mine goes.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i finaly carryout my alternator mounts and get some mill time ill post some pics. i forget who has the setup similar but another type 3 brother had a real trick adjustable mount setup on his type 3 made out of aluminum... it looked great... and i beleive he used an RX-7 3rd gen alternator 80 amp. which is what i have waiting to go in.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gixxer 711 wrote:
might i ask why you are running stand offs and no engine lid?

I have quite the intake setup and am running a bottle so getting as much forced air possible is key in maximizing h.p. I found that with the standoffs on or the decklid completely removed, having the engine cover on, it wasnt getting the vaccum draw into the intake area as thought. With the cover removed and the standoff gap it creates a vaccum of forced air.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can fit for as long that it fits the provision provided therefor.

But one thing is certain, if its not a Type 3 alternator, you have to improvize a rubber seal in the middle of the pulley and alternator body to isolate the hot air from the cool air. It the engine sucks hot air, it won't give any justice to your engine.

Check this Type 3 alternator on the classified:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=585553

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why spend that kind of money, for no gain in current. 35amps, is 35amps.
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