What kind of mirrors do you have on YOUR Ghia? |
Stock |
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56% |
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Bullet-shaped |
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9% |
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Swan-Neck |
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29% |
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Plastic (80's style) |
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4% |
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caats69kg Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 155 Location: Garland, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Mirrors |
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I bought the stock mirror for the passenger side from CIP.com and this is the second time it broke on me.
Does anyone know if these mirrors are any good?
Do they stay in place?
http://www2.cip1.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=C26-857-845
(sorry I can't copy the image) _________________ "Eleanor"
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sactojesse Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 2655 Location: Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Fender-mount, i.e., swan neck, mirrors were stock on 65 earlier ghias, so the choices for "stock" and "swan neck" overlap. Plus, there are two different styles of stock door mount mirrors: 1) oval 66-67 and 2) rectangular 68-74. _________________ 1966 Karmann-Ghia convertible |
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iowegian  Samba Curmudgeon

Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9950 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Of the "bullet style", the O.G. Talbot 'Berlin' are by far the finest.
While not cheap, they are poetry in motion.
(note: there is a moderator in this very forum that might have a pair that he might sell you. ) |
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caats69kg Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 155 Location: Garland, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Define "not cheap" and how much is he looking to sell them for?
Has any one purchased similar mirrors for the same price?
I'm not looking for too much of an investment here, I'm still part-timing and going to school.
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Fender-mount, i.e., swan neck, mirrors were stock on 65 earlier ghias, so the choices for "stock" and "swan neck" overlap. Plus, there are two different styles of stock door mount mirrors: 1) oval 66-67 and 2) rectangular 68-74.
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The poll was thrown in just for fun... if you feel so moved try clicking both options  _________________ "Eleanor"
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John Moxon  Samba Moderator

Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 14210 Location: Southampton U.K.
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smithers Samba Member

Joined: June 21, 2007 Posts: 240
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Does anybodt have a pic of the "bullet" mirors? Or know of a place I could buy one?
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kingkarmann Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4519
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I have a Talbot "Berlin" mirror on my 67. I like the way it looks but the way I mounted it is totally useless for a side mirror. It may have have been more functional if I mounted it out on the fender instead of the door. The mirror shown in the CIP catalog has a very small base, even smaller the the Talbot. I think it will look ok on a Ghia but if you want a useful side view mirror the Stock or a swan neck would be much more functional
Here's what my mirror looks like
Here is a view from the inside. It sits very low on the door. A taller base may have helped but overall I like the way it looks
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caats69kg Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 155 Location: Garland, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Talbot "Berlin" mirror on my 67. I like the way it looks but the way I mounted it is totally useless for a side mirror. It may have have been more functional if I mounted it out on the fender instead of the door. The mirror shown in the CIP catalog has a very small base, even smaller the the Talbot. I think it will look ok on a Ghia but if you want a useful side view mirror the Stock or a swan neck would be much more functional |
Does the outer lip not turn to angle for the driver/passenger mirrors? (on either the CIP or Talbot ones) _________________ "Eleanor"
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kingkarmann Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4519
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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They do adjust. But where have mine mounted they don't make much of a difference |
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caats69kg Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 155 Location: Garland, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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I see.
I'm just gonna buck it up and buy the OEM replacement for the right side. I hate the cheap ones that I keep getting sent.
Thanks for all of the help.
CT _________________ "Eleanor"
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Daddylolo Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Sintra, Portugal
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I got myself a pair of original Talbot Berlin mirrors, can you tell me what you had to do to fix yours to the door?
I will try to make mine more usefull than yours, maybe to place them over the fenders. _________________ '70 hot rod bug
'77 hawaiian bay van
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kingkarmann Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4519
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Daddylolo wrote: |
I got myself a pair of original Talbot Berlin mirrors, can you tell me what you had to do to fix yours to the door?
I will try to make mine more usefull than yours, maybe to place them over the fenders. |
I had the original mounting holes welded closed when the body work was done. I hadn't decided on where I was going to mount the mirrors.
My Talbot has "L" type bolts that allowed for installation from the outside of the car. Once I decided where I was mounting it I drilled the holes and installed it.
Here is a picture of the mounting hardware mine has......
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iowegian  Samba Curmudgeon

Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9950 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Daddylolo wrote: |
I got myself a pair of original Talbot Berlin mirrors, can you tell me what you had to do to fix yours to the door?
I will try to make mine more usefull than yours, maybe to place them over the fenders. |
My Talbot "Juniors" are mounted on top of the fenders over the wheels, right where the previous owner put them 40 years ago.
They look great, but the one on the passenger's side is useless to see behind you.
There are two methods of mounting, depending on which hardware you have with yours. One system has two "hook bolts" that are fastened with self-tapping screws to the body. These bolts go through the hollow base
and the mirror casing is then attached to the hook bolts with hex nuts.
The other system uses a "U" bolt instead of the two hook bolts.
It goes through the body panel from the back side. |
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Daddylolo Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Sintra, Portugal
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanx guys! The samba is really a nice comunity! _________________ '70 hot rod bug
'77 hawaiian bay van
'46 Buick Eight
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caats69kg Samba Member

Joined: July 22, 2006 Posts: 155 Location: Garland, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I second that.  _________________ "Eleanor"
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volken65 Samba Member

Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 171 Location: Palmdale, Ca
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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iowegian wrote: |
My Talbot "Juniors" are mounted on top of the fenders over the wheels, right where the previous owner put them 40 years ago.
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do you have any pictures of you ghia and mirror? i'd really like to see it...  |
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iowegian  Samba Curmudgeon

Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9950 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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volken65 wrote: |
iowegian wrote: |
My Talbot "Juniors" are mounted on top of the fenders over the wheels, right where the previous owner put them 40 years ago.
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do you have any pictures of you ghia and mirror? i'd really like to see it...  |
The car closest in the foreground.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/210784.jpg
A little farther towards the front of the fender would actually work better. |
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