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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52239
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: WR7CC+ verses W7CCO |
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Anyone have experience with both these plugs? Always got incredible life out of the stock W7CCO's and very short life out of the W7CC's. Was wondering how the WR7CC+'s did. |
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Wellington Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2004 Posts: 1994 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Do a search, many reputable sources are using NGK BP6ET and love em. |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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WRCC is a resistor plug. The way I see it, if the spec plug is a non-resistor, then there is noise suppression resistance in the spec'd wires, so adding resitance is going to reduce spark energy. Just speculating, but you might not like the WR's as much. I suspect there might be a palpable decrease in peak hp, and idle and off-idle response may be suffer. Try 'em and see! What's $20 these days?
Now for the shameless plug (get it? Plug?): you will like the BP6ET's so much you will never go back. How many times on this forum have you seen me advocate a particular approach with anything approaching passion? Not often, I'll warrant; I like to let people make up their own minds. In this case I make an exception.
If you just like Bosch, because it's OEM (some people do have that little hang-up, never understood why), Bosch makes a tri-electrode that I've used and it also performs better than the singles. The NGK BP6ET and the Bosch tri's are both copper core, which seems to have the best conductive characteristics for the stock ignition. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52239
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I am running BP6ET's, so I know how they run. They are fine for now, but I doubt that they will run the 80,000 miles that the original equipment Bosch W7CCO's did with ease. My 83 1/2 is pretty ratty and builds up deposits at a faster rate than it should, I haven't run the BP6ET's long enough to know how they will do, but the BP6ES's I tried gave very poor service, they wouldn't out perform a set of very high mileage W7CCO's.
Don't know what the "+" at the end of the Bosch plug number means. |
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psych-illogical Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2004 Posts: 1181 Location: AZ
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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So, a couple of you are running the BP6ET by NGK. I was on their web site the other day and they recommend a BR6ES for my 1.9L Vanagon. The differences are the BP is a projected insulator vs. the BR which is a resister type. That's been discussed in this thread but the T vs. S at the end is T = 3 ground electrode and S = standard electrode. Whats the advantage to a 3 ground electrode?
BTW, I've been running the W7CC Bosch in mine and recently went to a BP6ES based on a recommendation from a friend. In just a couple of days driving back and forth to work I haven't noticed a difference. _________________ 83 1/2 Westy waterboxer
'57 Beetle-sold
Coupla '81 BMW motorcycles (R80G/S; R100RS)
'96 BMW R1100GS |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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One reason for the resistance is radio suppression. Another reason is for extended tip life. That's pretty much the extent of it.
The " + " means plus. Bosch Super Plus. Plus a freakin' resistor _________________ Peace, ~R |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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psych-illogical wrote: |
So, a couple of you are running the BP6ET by NGK. I was on their web site the other day and they recommend a BR6ES for my 1.9L Vanagon. The differences are the BP is a projected insulator vs. the BR which is a resister type. That's been discussed in this thread but the T vs. S at the end is T = 3 ground electrode and S = standard electrode. Whats the advantage to a 3 ground electrode? |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=318120 _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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djs94124 Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2007 Posts: 79 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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NGK BP6ET plugs have changed my life!
Well, not really, but I can definitely recommend them!
At Tencentlife and other's recommendation, I recently changed over to these plugs from the stock Bosch W7CC's on my 2.3L wbx. Driveability, especially in mid-range power and throttle response are noticeably improved. I have also noted an ever-so-slight increase in gas mileage, but I will be monitoring this for several more tankfuls to verify.
Granted, my engine only has about 11K miles on it, and it ran pretty well with the stock plugs. However, the NGKs have made a noticeable difference.
-Dan _________________ 1987 2WD Westfalia
Modifications: GoWesty 2300 engine & rebuilt transaxle, 16x7.5 tire/wheel kit, South African "Big Brake" kit, Bilstein HD shocks, Whiteline front sway bar, 2WD Lift Springs, 2nd deep-cycle battery. |
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