My 67 Beetle looks like a 66. Any ideas?

[Randy55]

My 67 VIN checks out however it has a kilometer speedo, 66 style sloped front headlights, 1300 script on rear deck lid, a slightly different front turn indicator housing and lense, 12V, and single blades style front and rear bumpers. Anyone have any ideas as to its origins and value? I have pretty much restored it and is stock except for the 1600 motor. Thanks!!

[58Dub]

where are you reading the VIN? It could be a 67 floorpan with a 66 body

[Jeckler]

Discs or dums, 4 or 5 lug?
overrider holes?

Pics?
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[KTPhil]

Probably a Euro '67 that has been converted to 12V (or even 12V from the factory, it was an option, though a rare one).

The 1300 Euro 67s would still have the drums and 5-lugs. Only the 1500s got the front discs/4 lugs.

[Randy55]

Vin # matches body and pan #117002236 4 lug wheels


https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/521706.jpg

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/521705.jpg

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/521704.jpg

[KTPhil]

Those wheels do not look stock (VW didn't make chrome and those hubcaps are not stock), but that DOES say VW1300 and that IS a '67 rear lid. It was either ordered with discs despite the small engine, or a previous owner fitted 4-lugs on it later.

Does it have a 4-way flasher? One- or two-speed wipers? Just curious, since these can also be retrofitted, but it ups the odds about it being Euro if it's single-speed with no 4-ways. How about the ignition lock--on the dash or on the column?

[Randy55]

4 lug wheels no over rider holes

[Randy55]

The wheels are definatly after market chrome but the drums and such look original 2 the car. wiper motor is single speed, ignition is on the dash and there are no flashers. The hub caps pictured are some chrome ones but the original hub caps look to be the same as on my 68 conv

[KTPhil]

Looks like a Euro '67 with options of: 1300 engine, 4-lugs (probably added later, I didn't think 4-lug 4-drums were ever an option in '67), no steering lock. Not sure if thew 12V change was factory or later; when parts were cheap it wasn't hard to change it with original parts. This is not a common car in the US!

[Randy55]

Is there any way to tell for sure if the 12V is a conversion ? Does it really matter? Any idea on values?
Thanks!

[lawn ninja]

[KTPhil]

Take a look at the wiring behind the front dash cover. Does it have an old and dusty big blue box with something like 9 wires on it? Do the wires look original? Is the regulator shiny and new, or old, a bit corroded, wioth a warped original cardboard insulator plate (under the back seat)? Post a photo of the engine/generator and that might also help decide.

Nobody mentoined the kph speedo, also a Euro item. Either someone is a Euro car wannabee and did a great job, or it's original. Nice unusual car!

[67 Rag-top]

Weird one, the 1500 came with 4 stud discs over here and in Europe. As with most cars you can buy a model and add to it as you go. The US spec in Europe didn't have upright headlamps and the options were 1200, 1300 and 1500. 12 was a dealer option. BTW US overseas military could take one car out of the country and bring one home for free. I don't know if you can still do this, but that is why you get Euro cars in the US from time to time.

[Randy55]

Here are some more picts if anyone has any feedback on this bug. Thanks!

4lug

Signal

Wiring

[Russ Wolfe]

[KTPhil]

Old style turn signal relay, Euro headlamp relay, and rare side lamps on front turn signals all confirm it's a Euro. Only certain countries used those turn lenses up front, but I can't remember which.

[Randy55]

Thanks everybody for the information I 'preciat it !!
Randy