Wiring Project List

Dale M. · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: Wiring Project List

Since there is not a dedicated forum ANYWHERE on internet to address our wiring needs I have started a master list of "where to go"...

So here it is.....

Wiring Resources.
VW-Bugs- Buggies

WIRE – SWITCHES – CONNECTORS

https://www.delcity.net/
http://waytekwire.com
http://www.tiewraps.com/
http://cableorganizer.com/

READY MADE HARNESSES & KITS

http://www.americanautowire.com/HighwaySeries.html
http://watsons-streetworks.com/vw.html

INSTRUMENTS

http://www.egauges.com/default.asp
http://www.stewartwarner.com/

HARDWARE – LIGHTING - FUSES – FUSE PANELS

http://www.cool-leds.com/
http://www.wiringproducts.com/index1.html
http://www.k-four.net/
http://www.imperialinc.com/catD.shtml
http://www.grote.com/prodcat/
http://www.bussmann.com/
http://www.truck-lite.com/
http://www.centechwire.com/catalog/index.html

REFERENCE – SCHEMATICS – TROUBLE SHOOTING

http://www.type2.com/library/electrip/bosterm.htm
http://www.vintagebus.com/wiring/index.html
http://www.meyersmanx.com/garage/garage_wiring_p1.htm
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/elec.htm
http://www.6066gmcguy.org/BoschRelay.htm
http://www.the12volt.com/diodes/diodes.asp

More related Information... DIN number listing and dialogue for numbering of terminals on European Vehicles...

http://www.e38.org/understanding%20euro%20wiring%20diagrams.pdf

Electrical Wire Conversion Tables (US to Metric to US)

http://www.rbeelectronics.com/wtable.htm

If you wish to add to master list, please continue the thread... I will review any proposed additions and add them to the master list if they are substantial...

Dale
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CoryN · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:34 am Post subject:

Perfect timing. Thank you.

Hank22 · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:45 am Post subject:

Nice! thanks for taking the time to put this together Very Happy

Baja68 · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject:

thanks alot Very Happy

sfretwell · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject:

Could this information be coverted into a "Sticky" so it is alway at the beginning of the Forum and easy to find?

HamburgerBrad · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject:

dannyt · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject:

I use cableorganizer.com for all of my wire loom,loom connectors and other such items. I wasnt sure this would be cheaper but actually was and the fact they offer the t-connectors on the loom for the factory finished look. They offer other such items at ties,loom,heat shrink and other various electrical items. The best part is no minimum!

SpitnSpatz · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject:

Thanks Dale!!

NatedoggAZ · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

I vote STICKY!!
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HamburgerBrad · Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject:

ALB · Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:56 am Post subject:

Just found this; good stuff Dale!
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Dale M. · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject:

Here is some other great solution for turn signals and lighting controllers....

Mostly for 2 wheelers but a lot will cross over to buggies and Bajas...

http://www.signaldynamics.com/index.htm

More specifically....

http://www.signaldynamics.com/lighting_control.htm

Dale
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66 Shorty · Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:48 am Post subject:

I just ordered a wiring harness for my buggy, I hope it'll work for me... Looks like the ones a lot of guys here are using. I know I'll need some ground wire for it, but, this is a pic of it.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

What do you guy think? I priced out just the parts to make it & it was close but, worth the extra to have it all put together already, with labels & color coded...

Can you think of anything else I'll need besides extra ground wire?

Thanks,
Steve X.
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'10 Silverado (My daily)

jspbtown · Samba Member Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5209

I have used that exact harness several times. I like it. It certailny is not fully "complete", but its a good start.

In addition to the ground wires you will need the following:

1. Something to organize your grounds, be it a terminal strip, a buss bar, a couple of grounded bolts, whatever you choose.

2. A good amount of additional wire. Some examples of what I mean: See the short yellow wire? Thats your headlight feed. Thats it....nothing to get to the actual headlights, or the park lights (front & rear), license plate light, or the dash lights. Another thing is your brake lights. You have enough to get to the master cylinder, but not enough to get all the way back to the brake lights. Same for the blinkers. You have enough to run to the column, but not enough to run to all 4 blinkers.

3. You may need some additional relays, depending on how you wish to wire your car. You have 1 relay on the panel which works great for a negative triggered relay for the horn. Others use them for headlights. I also use one for the wipers and for the 4 way hazards.

4. I also make a modification to allow for 1 keyed and 1 constant hot when you are done with the basic wiring. The way it is now leaves you with two constant hots.

Here is a picture of mine installed in a Manx;

Oh yeah...you will also need connectors and shrink wrap.

66 Shorty · Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:37 am Post subject:

Thanks!

Right after I posted this, I remembered that there was another thread <~click to see it.] I posted in saying I wanted to use this same one... You actually replied to that thread with the same info! Thanks again!

I'll be looking into buying some more wire & can you recommend some relays? I'll be using them for the wipers, flashers, horn, & headlights. I've also got to buy some grounding bars, & connectors.... Plenty of connectors! I also want to make my dash connect with a plug, instead of having it all hard wired. My dash is one piece with my hood...

I should have searched first, but, at least the info is here for others if they need it.

I won't be ready to wire my buggy for a while, but, I was losing interest in the Buggy from everyone in my family being sick, doing inside house projects, & with this FREEZING weather we've had around here... SO, I bought the harness in hopes of sparking up my interest again. I just had a vacation from Dec. 23rd till today... I didn't get even one thing done in the garage the entire time I was off of work! I'm VERY disappointed in myself, but, I did get some house projects taken care of that I have been putting off for a while.
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'10 Silverado (My daily)

jspbtown · Samba Member Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5209

UUse the block mounted relay for the horn (especially if you are using a VW column). Its really already perfectly set up for a negative trigger which you need for the horn.

Any standard Bosch style relay will work well for the wipers and lights. They are available on EBAY for cheap, or your local Radio Shack. Like this:
http://www.delcity.net/store/Relay-!-with-mounting-bracket/p_73576.a_1

For the wipers you want to make sure you get one that has one tab energized at rest for the autopark feature. Its not really required for the headlights, but the same relay will work just fine.

For the flashers you need a relay like this:
http://www.delcity.net/store/specialty-relays/p_791795.h_791800.a_1.t_1

This will keep your blinkers isolated.

66 Shorty · Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:47 am Post subject:

So This relay http://www.delcity.net/store/Relay-!-with-mounting-bracket/p_73576.a_1 is the one you recommend for the wipers, markers, & headlights & http://www.delcity.net/store/specialty-relays/p_791795.h_791800.a_1.t_1 this one for the blinkers, right?

I've never wired up relays or anything, just stereo systems, so, I'm not familiar with what you said here

"For the wipers you want to make sure you get one that has one tab energized at rest for the autopark feature. Its not really required for the headlights, but the same relay will work just fine."

How would I go about doing that? Would I be all set if I just get a relay like the one you posted above?

For the horn/column/turn signal, I have a '60's VW column, a '67 turn signal switch w/hi/low beam switch on it, & I'm planning on using a '73 collapsible shaft on it. I have a "Scat Europa" steering wheel to use on it. I'm not positive on how it'll all hook up, but, I believe the horn button has a clip on the back to hook the wire up to. I added the wire down the inside of the shaft already. But, there isn't anywhere else that takes a wire. I'm guessing it was grounded to the column? That's something I'll have to figure out still. Plenty of time before I plan on honking the horn! LOL!

Thanks,
I know I'll have more questions once i get ready to wire up the buggy, but, I want to get some of the stuff out of the way now, so, I'm ready to take on the wiring of the buggy. It's kind of daunting to say the least!

Steve X.
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'60's Spatz Buggy body on '74 Chassis (Budget Build)
'69 Bug (Baja-to-be partial daily)
'10 Silverado (My daily)

jspbtown · Samba Member Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5209

I would use the 73980 relay for your headlights and wipers.

Use the 73996 relay for your flashers.

You don't use a relay for your blinkers.

TC/TeamEvil · Samba Member Joined: February 16, 2004 Posts: 1769

Dale!

THANK YOU for your post and all of the work that you put into it ! ! !

Just a wonderful job and a hugely needed service. Just in time for me as well. I owe you a big one.

Again, thanks SO much ! ! !

TC

Dale M. · Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject:

Also if you need some wiring diagrams, schematics on relays and lots of pictures and graphics on general electrical stuff. I just put up a lot (about 200) on my site...

http://www.mydune-buggy.com/gallery/index.php

Use SEARCH feature for keywords like: relay, diagram, chart, switch, light, turn signal, flasher and a few others....

Dale

psst.... also check out "technical page" and "links page" from "Home" page...
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"Kellison Sand Piper Roadster" For Street & Show.
"Joe Pody Sandrover" Buggy with 2180 for Autocross (Sold)
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All suggestions and advice are purely my own opinion. You are free to ignore them if you wish ...


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