turn signals and flasher wiring help needed

[hiram6]

I'm trying to do a little wiring clean-up and fix. Over it's many owners, my 85 Westy has wound up with quite a few questionable splices and patches in it's wiring. On my last trip, I kept blowing a fuse every time I tried to use my turn signals, so I decided to dig into the rats nest of wiring to see why.

So, after finding a few things splices into wires where they obviously should not have been, I'm trying to put things back to the way they should be.

So, here's my question.

On page 97.64 of the Bentley, I'm working on circuits 58 and 59.

On 58, a larger gauge red w/white tracer wire goes from fuse box position 9 to the back of the flasher switch.

On 59, a smaller gauge red wire goes to the switch, but the other end was spliced into the radio positive wire. Can this be right?

If I connect the red (circuit 59) wire to a 12v+ source, the flasher works, but that small gauge wire gets REALLY hot, very fast!! It is obviously carrying more current than it's designed for.

I know the answer its right there in the Bentley, I've just never mastered the art of reading those schematics.

Any electrical gurus got any advice for me???
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1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited

You can't lie around on the beach and drink rum all day.................unless you start first thing in the morning.

[crazyvwvanman]

Check fuse #9 to see if it is blown, should be 16 amp.

Yes, your description is right, the factory radio was powered off that same fuse, as is the map light over the glovebox, hint hint.

Fuse #11 powers the flasher relay when the 4 way flasher switch is off, then fuse #9 poweres the flasher relay when 4 way flasher switch is on.

Mark

[hiram6]

Okay. so I put things back to how they should have been with the red/white wire going to fuse 9, and the smaller red wire going to fuse 11. Previous owners had both of those circuits diverted elsewhere, no idea why.

Still blew a fuse, this time #11. On a hunch I swapped out the flasher relay, as I had a couple extra laying around, I popped a new 16 amp red fuse in slot #11, and.........

I have flashers and turn signals again!!!!

Okay, so that's kinda fixed, but I still have (been going on for a few months) an oddity with the little flasher light in the center stack of the instrument cluster. You know that little green light that flashes at you when giving a signal. Mine stays on at about 1/2 power all the time the ignition is on. It goes completely on/completely off like it should when I am giving a turn signal, but it's rest state is dimly on. It's done this for a few months, and it has done it with multiple flasher relays in place.

I asked about this issue a few weeks ago, and everyone said "bad flasher relay", well if that's true I've had 4 bad relays in a row, of various designs and manufacturers. Any ideas?
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1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited

You can't lie around on the beach and drink rum all day.................unless you start first thing in the morning.

[mightyart]

[crazyvwvanman]

Try a flasher relay with a large 21 stamped on the end and a VW emblem on the side.

Mark