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iceneweb
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: What does your van weigh? Reply with quote

An important part of the whole fuel economy and performance equation is of course vehicle weight.

Out of interest and perhaps comparison with others i weighed my van recently (gravel pit scale), without me in it:

1680 KG
3690 LBS

1986 9 seat Vanagon GL with sunroof, stock engine, stock 14" wheels and tires. Middle set of seats removed. Lots of bits and pieces, about 70lbs of work tools, fluff, chocolate bar wrappers etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i weighed my syncro GL 7 passenger at a DMV scale with...

- no people inside
- aftermarket fabric sunroof
- all seats installed
- toolbox
- zetec motor
- 16" MB steelies with kumho 225s
- homemade 2x6 steel rear bumper
- no spare wheel
- roadmaster "stowmaster" towbar mounted (probably 50lbs)
- 1 toddlers car seat

and she came in at 4000lbs on the nose
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look here:

http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/load.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That chart seems about right. I went through the scales at the dump last year. With just me and some empty trash cans the Syncro weighed 3995 pounds. Without me, probably 3820-ish.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped at the dump scales just to see how much it weighed and it was at 5900 but I'm sure its more with the wife and kid and stuff still gets 26mpg sometimes a little more.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alaric.H wrote:
I stopped at the dump scales just to see how much it weighed and it was at 5900 but I'm sure its more with the wife and kid and stuff still gets 26mpg sometimes a little more.


That is pretty heavy for an "empty" (?) van.

On a big road trip we were way loaded to 5700 IIRC but still got ~33 MPG, I do have a TDI, but you do too, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I'm packed for a trip with a full Westy, anywhere between 5300-5800 lbs. I hit 6200 once but I had a couple friends also in the rig.

Another post
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=240065&highlight=scales
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wbx wrote:
Take a look here:

http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/load.html


hard to make heads or tails of that table -- one could assume that those wts (esp. the ones with no ID) are individual wt. measurements, reported by others and measured somehow or other...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackbombay wrote:
Alaric.H wrote:
I stopped at the dump scales just to see how much it weighed and it was at 5900 but I'm sure its more with the wife and kid and stuff still gets 26mpg sometimes a little more.


That is pretty heavy for an "empty" (?) van.

On a big road trip we were way loaded to 5700 IIRC but still got ~33 MPG, I do have a TDI, but you do too, right?


Yes its a tdi but a lot of extras duel tank steel bumpers winch solar batts so on so on
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Less than my Ex-Wife

Oh that is so bad; but you set it up so well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westynova wrote:
Less than my Ex-Wife

Oh that is so bad; but you set it up so well.


Well westynova I think you just blew your chance at reconciling. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took mine to the scale Friday - Its an 87 Syncro that I converted to a westfakia. With my 300 lb westfakia trailer it hit the scales at 4620 lbs. That was everyday driving empty weight. I am sure when the van and trailer are packed for camping it will add up fast...maybe another 1000 lbs ? (5 people and gear)

The person at the scales was shocked last year when I scraped the rusted out westy donor at its stripped weight !

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westynova wrote:
Less than my Ex-Wife

Oh that is so bad; but you set it up so well.


As with the Vanagon, its not the chassis, its the baggage.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Bout 4800 with the wife and I on board in "weekend trim"...'bout 5200 in "deep camp trim". Add another 100 on the nose for the 147Ah 3rd battery that's goin' in soon as PDX posts about how to do so...Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there sure is a big difference between the lower and higher weights people are running their vans at. With my stock 2.1, and 3690lbs i find the performance to be adequate, though i deliberately drive like an old granny just to keep the fuel costs down. I can only imagine what an extra 1000lb or more does to fuel consumption and performance.

Thanks for contributing to my thread everyone, and thanks for the links Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YUP....5800 LBS....Stock 2.1....27" BFG's....Foot to the floor = 16 MPG.

Weight measured on a truck scale fully packed.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't the sticker on the B pillar on the driver's side have the Vans weight posted?

I swear I just saw 5000 some lbs on that sticker on a 87 GL
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

85 Westy with 1.8T conversion, Yakima box, big wheels and tiresm and a bunch of other "extras." I hit 5400 lbs. coming back from an outing fully loaded, full tank, most water, myself, wife and three kids, etc. I think if I were to clear out the people, tools, camping equipment, etc. we would easily drop the weight down to about 4600 lbs. or so.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4720 pound Canadian Syncro westy

with surfrack, board, wetsuit, and me in the van,

plus a house battery, propex, a tow strap and a pair o shackles, shovel, saw, air compressor, full of gas and water, 27x8.5x14 General Grabbers on Factory Alloys, including a spare..

tire load rating [email protected], inflated 40 front, 45 rear
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1991 rwd Multivan (I guess it's a Vanagon Carat over there) with 2.1 engine weighed 3560 lbs when I weighed it.

It had 15 liters of fuel and wasn't emptied when it was on scales, so glove box and the storage under the rear seat were full.
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