Need help to identify production date of this 1200

44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

Hello
I have this 1200cc engine ... would be grateful if someone could tell me the specific production date based on the engine number in the pic? is it a 40hp?

engine has a 009 fitted and Solex 30 pict-2 .... but I would like to find out what the stock set up was on this engine

Thank you
Andy

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BGEE68 · Samba Member Joined: December 21, 2002 Posts: 334

Take a look here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdating.php

It looks like it's a 65 1200cc 40 horse.

dgrnga · Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject:

I find this chart to be a big help!

44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

thank you for the replies - its a rebuilt Vege engine, which might explain the over stamped letter/digit at the start of the engine id code - my understanding is that bolt on generator tower would mean 40hp? Its 6 volt.

Anyone know if vege keep a record of their rebuilt engine?

Thanks again
Andy

glutamodo · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:17 am Post subject:

Well, Vege hasn't done 1200 engines that I know of, at least not for a long time. I've never seen one and back the mid 90s when I was mechanic they were not in the Vege catalog.
Are you sure it's a VEGE? - they use a riveted tag over the original number, and I don't see any rivet holes on this. The stamped letter, well, by the time that VW put a letter in front of the serial number it was the D seires. I don't see a D in that mangled letter.

What manifiold do you have?

Oh, and personally, I do not find that chart to be very helpful. It's just too vague and general. (And sloppy - HS?? No such thing either, typo, they mean H5) The VIN chart on theSamba is much better as is this one:

44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

Hi heres a few pics of the engine ... what you think looks like single port 1300-1600 manifold?

I want to mount the engine here with 1950s box until i get my other engine sorted ....

Jody '71 · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:30 am Post subject:

I may be way off here, but that looks like a type 3 engine that has been modified to type 1 configuration, just by looking at the oil pressure switch and how the tinwork is not correct Rolling Eyes

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44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

Heads are stamped inside ... vw 211.101.373

Andy

asad1432 · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:39 am Post subject:

44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

interesting thank you ... I had another look round the engine and so some more information .... one head is stamped 211.101.373 and other is 311.101.373A

Also, low down on the side of the engine block it is stamped
40 vw 000.101.102A and on other side of the block it is stamped
23 vw 000.001.101A

any info much appreciated

thanks
Andy

44kubel · Samba Member Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 76

Judging from the tables and pics then it must be a rebuilt E series 1300cc engine ...anyone else got any ideas or info on this engine type?

Thanks
andy

glutamodo · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:38 am Post subject:

I don't think it's an E or an L block though, they didn't make no 800,000+ of them. I think an F or an H block would have been most likely for that, then someone stamped over it with an E maybe? I think some H series blocks did come with the oil switch pointing up like yours is, even on type 1s. A type 3 engine would not have had its number stamped where yours is.

With the mismatched later heads on there I'm going to guess it's now just your normal run of the mill 1600SP. I'd probably take it down to the block and inspect it anyway.

Again, was there a reason you thought it was a Vege engine?
-AGT

Jody '71 · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:44 am Post subject:

Yeah, upon picking my memory cells, the oil pressure switch on the type 3's was installed in the oil cooler. Sorry to be misleading
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JSMskater · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:

Montgomery · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject:

I could just be a little slow but these Engine code charts confuse me, my engine# is H 5376671 and my Chassis# is 117369750. Does that mean my 67 was made in late 66 ? Could that be the original 1500 engine ? Or was my engine made in the middle of 67 ?

Sorry in advance for my newbie ignorance.
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glutamodo · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject:

The H5 series (which was only for US models) didn't come out until beginning of model year 1968. There is only spotty information available about H5 production. Extrapolating though, I'd estimate your engine was made around June 1968, so it's definately not the original one from your 11/66 produced bug.
-Andy

Montgomery · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:

Thanks, that's basically what I was thinking
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