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tractoman Samba Member

Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 221 Location: Sonoma, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:21 pm Post subject: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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Trying to replace the engine lid seal with a German seal from Busdepot. Seems like a nice seal, fits the opening but seems a little too stiff or fat for the hatch to close. I adjusted the lower strike plate piece so it will close but still seems incorrect. The channel is clean and I wire brushed and wiped all the crap out of it. Do I have to adjust the top hinges too? I cannot get the screws to release at all. Seemed like a simple task. Feeling like an idiot. _________________ Mike
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42742 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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I had no trouble with their kit. 1977 bus. This is the engine lid and not the hatch in the inside. _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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tractoman Samba Member

Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 221 Location: Sonoma, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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SGKent wrote: |
I had no trouble with their kit. 1977 bus. This is the engine lid and not the hatch in the inside. |
Yep, the engine door below the rear hatch and above the bumper. Not the access hatch inside. _________________ Mike
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42742 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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tractoman wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
I had no trouble with their kit. 1977 bus. This is the engine lid and not the hatch in the inside. |
Yep, the engine door below the rear hatch and above the bumper. Not the access hatch inside. |
mine was hollow and looked just like the factory one. _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52881 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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Does it have the groove for the metal lip on the channel to go into?, are you rolling it into that gap between the lip and base of the seal channel?
Just stabbing in the dark here, maybe it's just lousy rubber (wouldn't be the first time). _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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tractoman Samba Member

Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 221 Location: Sonoma, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Does it have the groove for the metal lip on the channel to go into?, are you rolling it into that gap between the lip and base of the seal channel?
Just stabbing in the dark here, maybe it's just lousy rubber (wouldn't be the first time). |
Yes, rolling it in so the little lip is over the flange. Maybe I need to push harder bit it looks great in the groove until I close the hatch. I can get it to close but had to adjust the strike plate and it is tight. The seal bulges out on the sides and corners. _________________ Mike
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2576 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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maybe in 2 months it wont be so tight, and you can then adjust |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42742 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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good photos will help _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52450
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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If it doesn't seal well you may get exhaust gas eddying back into the engine compartment which would include CO gas, which especially if you have the heat on, get up into the cab. Not good. |
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Zed999 Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2018 Posts: 1404 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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There are two types of these aren't there? I've never got on with the hollow ones, they seem too fat, they pinch at the top when you shut the lid and split after a few years. That's from observation over 8 years of mechanicing buses for a living. Almost always in tatters or holding the lid partly open.
I prefer the foam ones, I'll see if I can find a photo, they are a strange x-section.
Edit - this one.
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Turbod16v Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2016 Posts: 156 Location: beaver twp, PA
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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I got tired of playing the will it work game with all the different versions of the same seal bus depot sells.
My brother went through 3 of their engine seals before one worked. Me, just one from Wolfsburg west. Fit perfect, closes nice. _________________ 1971 westy tin top that got a 74 up pop top bolted on |
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52450
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Engine lid seal, am I an idiot? |
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Turbod16v wrote: |
I got tired of playing the will it work game with all the different versions of the same seal bus depot sells.
My brother went through 3 of their engine seals before one worked. Me, just one from Wolfsburg west. Fit perfect, closes nice. |
My WW seal is now 13-14 years old, still working well. |
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