Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Volksrod - I-Beam or Mustang II Suspensions
Forum Index -> Other VW Vehicles/Volksrods Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
AMJ
Samba Member


Joined: October 29, 2009
Posts: 17
Location: CT
AMJ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:00 am    Post subject: Volksrod - I-Beam or Mustang II Suspensions Reply with quote

If I were to adapt an I-Beam or even a Mustang II suspension for a Volk-Rod build, are there any good articles or books out there that would help? I've seen the I-Beams on Volks-Rods before, but would love to know in detail how it's done. The only thing I can think of at this point would be to get a Hot Rod Chassis Design book(s), but most of those are geared toward 30's and 40's Rods.

~ Aaron
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Reaper
Samba Member


Joined: March 27, 2008
Posts: 249
Location: Olympia, WA.
Reaper is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably get more feedback here: http://www.volksrods.com/forum/

You will not find a warm response for this here. Come over to the darkside, we have cookies. HAHAHA. Laughing
_________________
The Dangers of Brake cleaners: http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
drscope
Samba Member


Joined: February 19, 2007
Posts: 15273
Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
drscope is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, with any sort of modification like this, you simply need to figure out how to tie it into the exsisting frame. OR build a new frame to sit your body work on.

Speedway makes the straight axle kit for the volksrods. It comes with all the mounting hardware. Not a bad kit, but a little weak where the wish bones meet the body. If you beef things up in that area, it's not a bad way to go.

The plus side to the Speedway kit on a volksrod is that all that vintage looking suspension is hanging out there for all to see.

That's the negative of using the Mustang II on a volksrod. It really just dosn't look the part. But it handles better and rides a lot nicer!
_________________
Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AMJ
Samba Member


Joined: October 29, 2009
Posts: 17
Location: CT
AMJ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reaper - For this particular car I currently have, the Rod style is about the only style of build I can do without spending a year's salary. This car is pretty well shot. I definitely want to build a nice looking Bug at some point. I actually belong to the Volks-Rod site, but I always like to get multiple suggestions.

drscope - Thanks for the suggestion. I will research Speedway.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
vaughn bros.
Samba Member


Joined: October 13, 2003
Posts: 2398
Location: Hickory, NC
vaughn bros. is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those "kits" are as safe as Chrome plated EMPI Master Cylinder. If you must go to Volksrod, remember there alot of Hatchet jobs mixed in with non hatchet types. Know the good from the dangerous.
To end, the I-Beam is the only choice compared to a A arm front end. Here is ours. Design and Make your own.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AMJ
Samba Member


Joined: October 29, 2009
Posts: 17
Location: CT
AMJ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vaughn bros. wrote:
Design and Make your own.

I think the "Design" part is more of my question than what parts to use. If I had something in front of me that gave me details like geometry, calculations, where and what to measure from, etc. I could definitely figure it out. I'm sure it doesn't have to be VW specific.

There are quite a number of books on Amazon with regards to Hot-Rod Chassis & Suspension design, but I'd hate to buy them and they give me nothing. This is definitely something I'd like to get right and not have a half-assed dangerous suspension.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Reaper
Samba Member


Joined: March 27, 2008
Posts: 249
Location: Olympia, WA.
Reaper is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By all means, buy the books, and do all the research you can. Then you'll probably figure out how to adapt a particular design into your project.
As one of my uncle's loves to say, "Do you want it done right, or done right now?"
_________________
The Dangers of Brake cleaners: http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
AMJ
Samba Member


Joined: October 29, 2009
Posts: 17
Location: CT
AMJ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I tend to be impatient so right now works well for me..... Laughing

I've managed to find pictures on the net of slightly modified chases and completely custom fabricated ones as well. I'm thinking that if I can get all the critical measurements of where the body mounts, the engine mounts, etc then maybe I can design one. Perhaps use the majority of the frame and then add on to the front of it with a completely different suspension.

Or maybe someone can design it on paper for me and then I'll build it. I hate not knowing things when you want to know them. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
vaughn bros.
Samba Member


Joined: October 13, 2003
Posts: 2398
Location: Hickory, NC
vaughn bros. is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some drawings that are laying around our shop. For us , its a pastime to draw and design.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AMJ
Samba Member


Joined: October 29, 2009
Posts: 17
Location: CT
AMJ is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are great. Thanks for sharing..!! I'm not very good when it comes to drawing so I'm not too sure I'll share mine. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
drscope
Samba Member


Joined: February 19, 2007
Posts: 15273
Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
drscope is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/SoCal-Look-VW-Straight-Axle-Kit,4040.html

Read the description! The picture only shows the frame mount for the axle, not the axle.

The only real weak ling to this kit is where the radius rods meet the body. Those brackets are not strong enough. And it also really helps to beef up the body where these mounts attach. They attach to the body mount bolts and a real good addition is to add a heavy liece of strap material to spread the load over a few more body to pan bolts.
_________________
Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Other VW Vehicles/Volksrods All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2024, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.