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mreuter
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 Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:09 pm Post subject: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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I have a hart time to find a capable windows installer here in the California Bay Area to install custom made Louvre windows for the Vanagon.
So far I went with 2 different installers in the body shop my car is in and none of them is able to install the 2 louvre windows because they are not installed like the other 6 windows on the Vanagon.
I bought them here at the Samba and the seller send some basic 4 lines written install with the Windows and really he tried to help per email but I am more a visual guy and need pictures to makes sense out of the install description.
Here is what he wrote:
Hello Mike,
The windows go in from the outside. holes have to be drilled in the inner lip in your van... screws go from the inside of the van through the lip and into the channel on the back of the window.
screes?... the screens fit on the inside... they go in from the bottom...up into the channel then drop down to stay in place.
The large seals are just to finish off the look inside the bus... they don't seal water or anything...
The thin seal fits between the window and your paint.. it has 3 ridges on 1 side... the 3 ridges go to your paint... the other side has a small lip... that small lip fits onto the window.
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Question I have is if someone knows a capable installer who can do not standard installs or maybe someone did this window before and has some picture specially on the screw in part what still makes no sense to me.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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they literally just screw in.
look up in the bay window section "jalousie window" and that may help clear things up
on bays, the screw hole is VERY close to the edge on the pinch weld, just a heads up. not sure how these will work in a vanagon in terms of how close the holes will be to the edge
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mikemtnbike
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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Pretty sure 16cvs on here is bay area and installs windows for a living, I'd PM him unless he posts here really soon.
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mreuter
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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They fit in perfect and touch the pinch weld.
I am not sure where the screws goes. They would stick out inside and you would see them. It came with 2 seals, one thin one and one larger one you can see on the frame outside. No seal for inside to cover screws pointing inward.
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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Yes 16CVs, or any random Parisian.
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mreuter
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
| Yes 16CVs, or any random Parisian. |
I actually talk to him but he is not available because he is to busy. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| mreuter wrote: |
They fit in perfect and touch the pinch weld.
I am not sure where the screws goes. They would stick out inside and you would see them. |
that is exactly how they are. some bays had a decorative "seal" to hide them. that may not be the case with the vanagon windows as they never came with these
you will see the screw heads
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8800195
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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Oh, these repros for Vanagon don't fit in the gasket like a traditional glass? That's deceiving 
I spent 40 hours restoring one to fit it in a sliding window frame, looks neat. I was thinking of buying these next time..., but no way I'm using screws !!
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| ALIKA T3 wrote: |
| but no way I'm using screws !! |
honestly as long as the seals are good never in my 30 years of baywindow ownership has it ever been a problem with rust or water leaks.
but, i will say even restored the bay window jalousie windows have a tendency to rattle, not sure how these will hold up
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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mreuter
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| ALIKA T3 wrote: |
Oh, these repros for Vanagon don't fit in the gasket like a traditional glass? That's deceiving
I spent 40 hours restoring one to fit it in a sliding window frame, looks neat. I was thinking of buying these next time..., but no way I'm using screws !! |
I agree that this was deceiving. I was told they are make for the 1986-1991 vanagon so why would they not make them that the fit in the rubber seal of the sliding window. |
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valvecovergasket
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| Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| ALIKA T3 wrote: |
Oh, these repros for Vanagon don't fit in the gasket like a traditional glass? That's deceiving
I spent 40 hours restoring one to fit it in a sliding window frame, looks neat. I was thinking of buying these next time..., but no way I'm using screws !! |
that was my thought reading this, interesting...
im mid-way through working some to fit in the van slider frames, and and its huge time suck, has always assumed these were drop ins with the seal but i think the screws would be a deal breaker.
best of luck on the install!
take some pics if you can, im curious how it all fits together since the ad is definitely lacking on details in that fastening department |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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holy shit....
these are a "reproduction" of the bay window jalousie windows and install just like (gasp!) jalousie windows for a bay window where they screw to the pinch weld just like they did in the split windows.
funny... people will attack their van with a hatchet to install solar, a/c, different engines etc but lose their minds when they have to drill a few tiny holes...just like westfalia did on earlier campers these windows are modeled after 
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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MayorMcCheese
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| Well there's really no reason for them to screw in and they could easily be made to use the stock vanagon seal. The DIY crowd figured out how to do it at least 15 years ago, the instructions are out there and it's not hard. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| MayorMcCheese wrote: |
| Well there's really no reason for them to screw in and they could easily be made to use the stock vanagon seal. The DIY crowd figured out how to do it at least 15 years ago, the instructions are out there and it's not hard. |
i understand that 100%..... gut sliding windows, plug in bay window jalousie windows and rope in a seal like normal
but these were never made to do that as they are a bigger copy of the bay window jalousie assemblies.
even his ad clearly states screws are included for the install:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2447553
i suppose the seller is under the assumption anyone purchasing these understands how the original bay window jalousies install, as well as the split window camper windows but evidently that isn't the case.
so i guess the o/p has 2 options...return these and make your own from bay window jalousies or screw these in and enjoy them
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| gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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elizer
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| I wanted to get these , but I am a visual learner like the OP. I never had experience with these and the seller doesn't do installs. These seem to be the same as the campervan culture/thai vanagon guy. CVC said direct fit, I asked for clarification. If someone get these in could you please do a write up? I will jump on board once someone else gets their feet wet lol. |
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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oh my....
Link
they literally screw in. you drill holes in the pinch weld in the area where the extruded groove is, as shown in my link above:
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The screws go through the pinch weld and into the little duckbilled channels.
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here is the link...again....
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8800195
i mean you couldn't ask for an easier install of a window
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
| Jake Raby wrote: |
| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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elizer
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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you are right.
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mreuter
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| I did watch the YouTube videos and it seems really easy to install and thats why i try it myself and do a write up. If you never owned a VW T2 with those jalousie windows than you going to scratch your had without any good instructions. I don’t care about drilling holes into the frame because I can closed them with caulking if I decide to go back to the original style windows. What I like on is that you have double the amount on open window area compared to the original Westfalia T3 windows. |
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
holy shit....
these are a "reproduction" of the bay window jalousie windows and install just like (gasp!) jalousie windows for a bay window where they screw to the pinch weld just like they did in the split windows.
funny... people will attack their van with a hatchet to install solar, a/c, different engines etc but lose their minds when they have to drill a few tiny holes...just like westfalia did on earlier campers these windows are modeled after |
What I was saying was since they made them from scracth, they could have made them to fit the original gasket 
As far as solar, I gutted my entire Westfalia interior to run wires without drilling any metal outside. There's like 1" of visible wire outside where it enters the pop top. No hatchet jobs for me, and no screws in the body either 
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DuncanS
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Bay Area Windows installer for Vanagon Louvre Window install |
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How are your front turn signal housings held on? And the side marker light and the rear taillights? Use stainless screws and what's to worry about. For the jalousie windows, use silicone and it's done.
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