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dumpling Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: Replacing fuel lines: What about the "ring line"? |
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After the pump there a stiff small diameter line. The Factory Repair Manual refers to it as the ring line. It is connected to the pump by flexible line, goes to the firewall and then is connected to the FI setup by another piece of rubber line. Should I be doing anything to the "ring line"? |
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madspaniard Samba Member

Joined: August 18, 2008 Posts: 3795 Location: Alameda, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't replace it when I did my fuel lines. The ring line is made of plastic? it should last way longer than the rubber fuel lines _________________ 1991 Westy auto w/ Peloquin TBD
"The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad” - Salvador Dali |
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dumpling Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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It seems fine. I was wondering how flexible rubber line would hug the underbody as well... |
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peasant Samba Member

Joined: April 25, 2009 Posts: 321
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I didnt replace the plastic lines going to or from the gas tank, they seemed good _________________ 89 wolfsberg weekender carat
89 Westfalia |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 3778
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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stock hard plastic lines seem to live a long life, unless physically damaged by an impact. the stock rubber lines should all be replaced by now, theya are 20+ yers old and the origianl rubber used is not very compatible with oxygenated fuels used now days in some areas. replace using SAE rated 30R9 hose, (not the lesser 30R7 hose) the 30R9 will be printed on the hose, it is the new standard in hose, has a teflon like lining to protect aginst attack by the new gasoline, it shoudl last much longer, plus it is many many times less permiable to feul vapors so it helps control smog better!!! usually I can only find it in inch sized, 5/16 inch works on the vanagon, just be sure to use hose clamps that are smooth inside.
the hose fitting ont eh fire wall on my 86 van was the first stock place I had leak, big fuel leak!!! the hose had rotted off. I eventually eliminated that fitting, and used a gromment to pass the rubber hose thrut eh fire wall, no more plastic fitting there. the plastic was very hard and brittle when it was removed. |
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52363
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I replaced the plastic lines on my vans with steel. The idea is to stop a fire from working its way forward by burning the length of the plastic lines.
This picture is from a Multivan with a Subaru conversion, but you can see how I terminated the steel in the engine compartment at the highest possible point to lessen the chance of gravity feeding a fire. By going to steel you can also easily get rid of the stupid plastic connector VW used.
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schoonerman Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2008 Posts: 244 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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When I replaced my fuel lines I went striaght from the pump thru a gummet (removing the leaking plastic thingy) in the fire wall to the engine. I eliminated those thin plastic pipes and the joints and clamps.
I couldn't understand why they were there, have I made a mistake??? _________________ 87 Westy/Vanagon |
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thummmper Samba Member

Joined: November 25, 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Meadow Valley, California Republic
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: yeah |
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I replaced everything aft of the tank--zippy tye aye aye aaay..... |
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Microbusdeluxe  Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 1004 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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After replacing the soft fuel lines I was still getting that gas smell (which nearly ruined a vacation) so off came every line on the vanagon!! No more smell, no more bitching passengers. VW has the hard plastic lines, think it was about $50. _________________ '69 Squareback RIP
'65 21 window deluxe sold before the price spike, damn it.
'70 rhd bay now a taxi in South Sudan
'81 Westy sold
'89 hightop Westy Joker syncro 16" now with Bostig! |
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512dude Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I replaced the 'ring line' that you mentioned today with the BMW fuel line from Van-Cafe. It is a rubber fuel line and not the hard line that originally was on the van. I carefully threaded it thru the same location as the hard line and also replaced the small sections between the fuel filter, fuel pump and the slightly larger section from the fuel pump to the tank. The clamps I used were also from Van-Cafe kit.
I decided to change out the plastic bulk head fitting and after considering the reasonable option here on the Samba for $39+shipping (link here) I choose to hit the local shop to save some $ and get it done today. I ended up fabricating a solution from brass fittings and a couple of fender washers which cost me $15
These pics show my fix before and after the fuel line is installed and they are taken from the engine compartment and underneath the van looking up at the bulkhead.
REPLACE THIS BRITTLE LITTLE GUY BEFORE HE FAILS
FITTING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT
FUEL LINE INSTALLED
FITTING FROM UNDER THE VAN (Engine compartment is towards the bottom of the image)
ALL HOOKED UP |
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VwMomofthree Samba Member

Joined: November 15, 2006 Posts: 195 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:58 am Post subject: |
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512dude wrote: |
I replaced the 'ring line' that you mentioned today with the BMW fuel line from Van-Cafe. It is a rubber fuel line and not the hard line that originally was on the van. I carefully threaded it thru the same location as the hard line and also replaced the small sections between the fuel filter, fuel pump and the slightly larger section from the fuel pump to the tank. The clamps I used were also from Van-Cafe kit.
I decided to change out the plastic bulk head fitting and after considering the reasonable option here on the Samba for $39+shipping (link here) I choose to hit the local shop to save some $ and get it done today. I ended up fabricating a solution from brass fittings and a couple of fender washers which cost me $15
These pics show my fix before and after the fuel line is installed and they are taken from the engine compartment and underneath the van looking up at the bulkhead.
REPLACE THIS BRITTLE LITTLE GUY BEFORE HE FAILS
FITTING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT
FUEL LINE INSTALLED
FITTING FROM UNDER THE VAN (Engine compartment is towards the bottom of the image)
ALL HOOKED UP |
Van-cafe has a metal replacement for this part expensive but will do the job! |
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