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Joined: January 24, 2004 Posts: 83 Location: Sioux Falls, SD
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: MAMotorworks Blinker Install |
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I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly how to finish my blinker install. I got one from Mid American but can't figure out the right setup. I have gone over the wiring diagram for a 67 but that doesn't match up to what their blinker comes with. A couple emails from them don't help either as one email from them gives 2 different answers to what does what. My main question (if anyone else has ordered one from them) is what do I do with the short brown wire, the longer brown/white wire with the brown extension, and the black wire with the small blue extension (the blue extension has a tiny female spade connector and I dont have any male connector that will fit it).
Am I being dumb and just missing something or is there something I am losing in translation?
Here is their answer to my question.
brown and brown with yellow stripe are for the dimmer
black with the little blue wire is the main feed wire
green with black stripe is right turn
black wht white stripe left turn
Dimmer Switch is on the end of the turn signal lever, on the
forward (bottom) side. just a narrow clicker switch.
9-27-10/4283mark
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Mark and Russell’s version 10-26-07
Car Switch
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BK/wh to BK/wh to LH Turn Signal
BK/gn to GN/bk to RH Turn Signal
Bk/Wh/Gn to BK w/BL/Bk extension to Turn/Flasher Relay
BR to BR to Dimmer Relay
BR/wh to BR/yw w/BR/yw extension to Windshield Wiper Switch _________________ Former owner 68 beetle
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer

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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Ok when you say blinker...do you mean flasher? _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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AHHHH The turn signal switch.
Post ALL the wire colors... Should be 5 different circuits (wires) _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Here are the wires I am wondering about along with my best guess as to where they are supposed to go.
1. Short brown (supposed to go to the horn but its nowhere near long enough?)
2. Brown White + Brown combo/pigtail wire (BR/W to dimmer relay (J2), then brown to wiper switch (E)?) Funny thing about this, when I connect the brown/white to the dimmer relay and the brown to the wiper switch, every time I turn the lights on and off I get bright, then dim, then bright, etc.
3. Black + Blue combo (Black to 49a on the Turn signal & emergency flasher relay (J1), then blue to ??? The blue has a very small connector on it and I don't see anywhere that has a male spade that small for it to even fit?)
Thanks! _________________ Former owner 68 beetle
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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SDBug wrote: |
Here are the wires I am wondering about along with my best guess as to where they are supposed to go.
1. Short brown (supposed to go to the horn but its nowhere near long enough?)
2. Brown White + Brown combo/pigtail wire (BR/W to dimmer relay (J2), then brown to wiper switch (E)?) Funny thing about this, when I connect the brown/white to the dimmer relay and the brown to the wiper switch, every time I turn the lights on and off I get bright, then dim, then bright, etc.
3. Black + Blue combo (Black to 49a on the Turn signal & emergency flasher relay (J1), then blue to ??? The blue has a very small connector on it and I don't see anywhere that has a male spade that small for it to even fit?)
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The horn circuit is not part of the actual turn signal circuits and wiring for it.
Do you have 5 terminals (circuits) coming from the turn signal switch harness?
If so name the colors of them all.
Aftermarket switches have had an issue with wire color consistancy... we have delt with these, but you need to have an ohm meter or continuity tester.
From another post..
glutamodo wrote: |
aha, aftermarket. What color wires? I think there's been different ones in the aftermarket and I'm not really sure if there is any kind of consistancy in the wiring colors. Really though, just 5 wires, and the two for the headlight clicker should be obvious, so that's 3 wires. If you have an ohm meter it's not very difficult to figure out which is the "middle" connection and then the two that branch off for Left and Right. |
_________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah - once you get the meter - do this first - see what wires make connections in the various positions and jot it down
For example - dimmer switch pushed connects black and black/white
Left turn signal connects brown and orage
right turn signal connect pink and purple
These are not correct colors - just an idea of what info to have when you post again.
I had the same issue and figured it out myself, but its been a while. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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That link goes over exactly what I am going through. I guess I needed to search for turn signal and not blinker! Thanks for the input and I'll see how it works tonight! _________________ Former owner 68 beetle
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