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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:45 am    Post subject: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

I have looked all over and this sheet metal does not seem to be available anywhere ?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Not just that section by itself, but you can trim off what you don't need.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111801202
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

mukluk wrote:
Not just that section by itself, but you can trim off what you don't need.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111801202
Thanks sadly I looked at that piece several times and thought that it went below that section, thanks again
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Bigjacksauto wrote:
it won't below that section thanks again


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Unless something has changed in the past couple of years, I couldn't find them either and had to make my own.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

I used the WW metal referenced above by mukluk. It has to be modified to allow the heater duct to pass through but fit well otherwise. A picture before welding of the left side but same idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/52-79-rear-wheelhouse-rear-lower-splash-panel-section-passengers-side/

Straight from their website.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

VW_Jimbo wrote:
http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/52-79-rear-wheelhouse-rear-lower-splash-panel-section-passengers-side/

Straight from their website.

I believe that part goes below the part I am looking for.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Mika makes them also.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1462779

http://restorationpanels.com/product/rear-cross-member-reinforcement-panels-855-up/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Bigjacksauto wrote:
VW_Jimbo wrote:
http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/52-79-rear-wheelhouse-rear-lower-splash-panel-section-passengers-side/

Straight from their website.

I believe that part goes below the part I am looking for.


This is the part you are looking for on their site. klokkerholm replacement panels are garbage, so if you can find this part from someone else, that would be your best bet. Use the entire part or cut off what you need.

The picture shows it upside down and from the back view.

http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/65-79-rear-cross-member-drivers-side/

http://www.klokkerholmusa.com/65-79-rear-cross-member-passengers-side/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

the part you have circled in your post is definitely the cross member but if you need the part that goes over top of the cross member you need this:

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113813111BH

somewhere around here was an amazing exploded diagram of how all these parts meet up. I'll have to see if I can find it.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

TryToBeOriginal wrote:
somewhere around here was an amazing exploded diagram of how all these parts meet up. I'll have to see if I can find it.


Is this the diagram?
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This discussion is also helpful:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Hokie87 wrote:
TryToBeOriginal wrote:
somewhere around here was an amazing exploded diagram of how all these parts meet up. I'll have to see if I can find it.


Is this the diagram?
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This discussion is also helpful:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0


Yup that's the one! I Remember the original thread that was in and the guy restoring the beetle but couldn't remember the name of the thread... It's a shame that beetle sold.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:53 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

So is the green piece in the pic a separate piece from the cross member? Or is that crossmember repair piece?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

It's this piece in my included link. It attaches to the outside. When you purchase the crossmember it's already attached. When I did mine I bought the end cap , took the old one off and welded the new one on. It probably added an extra 4 hours of hassle to try and save a few bucks and I was sorry I didn't just buy the cross member. Photo below of when I did mine.

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111805091CC

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Great info, thanks everyone. Time to place another order. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

My son and are in the process of replacing the crossmember now.
Picture below is not from ours but gives an idea on the gap

First question where the chassis mounting bolt goes through the top crossmember piece then down through the splash panel inner crossmember piece there is approximately 5/16" of an inche gap between both panels.we are considering drilling the tack welds and moving the inner plate a little so that it will be almost flush. What we are finding is that if we bolt down as is the upper piece distorts as it is pulled down . Any one else run into that.only other idea is to weld in some metal between the two?

Second question
How is the heat tube connected as it goes through the crossmwmber.
Any tricks to getting it out before we tackle that?

Third question any torque spec on the 3 bolts on crossmember replacement?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Bigjacksauto wrote:
My son and are in the process of replacing the crossmember now.
Picture below is not from ours but gives an idea on the gap

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First question where the chassis mounting bolt goes through the top crossmember piece then down through the splash panel inner crossmember piece there is approximately 5/16" of an inche gap between both panels.we are considering drilling the tack welds and moving the inner plate a little so that it will be almost flush. What we are finding is that if we bolt down as is the upper piece distorts as it is pulled down . Any one else run into that.only other idea is to weld in some metal between the two?


This is the same car after mounting back on the chassis. I didn't notice it at the time but it appears there may be some minor distortion. Test fit and tighten the bolt before you paint.
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Second question
How is the heat tube connected as it goes through the crossmwmber.
Any tricks to getting it out before we tackle that?


Heater channel goes to -- not through -- the cross member.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

That looks great.
Definentley testing over and over before fully installing.
I will maybe just shim up inside gap a little
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Sheet metal availability question inside above heater channel an Reply with quote

Hokie87 wrote:
Bigjacksauto wrote:
My son and are in the process of replacing the crossmember now.
Picture below is not from ours but gives an idea on the gap

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


First question where the chassis mounting bolt goes through the top crossmember piece then down through the splash panel inner crossmember piece there is approximately 5/16" of an inche gap between both panels.we are considering drilling the tack welds and moving the inner plate a little so that it will be almost flush. What we are finding is that if we bolt down as is the upper piece distorts as it is pulled down . Any one else run into that.only other idea is to weld in some metal between the two?


This is the same car after mounting back on the chassis. I didn't notice it at the time but it appears there may be some minor distortion. Test fit and tighten the bolt before you paint.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Bigjacksauto wrote:
Second question
How is the heat tube connected as it goes through the crossmwmber.
Any tricks to getting it out before we tackle that?


Heater channel goes to -- not through -- the cross member.
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Hokie it looks like the metal compressed down about a 1/4" or so,does that sound about right? Also did you torque it to a certain spec?
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