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Chootrain470 Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2023 Posts: 178 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:34 pm Post subject: Burning Man 2024 |
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I'm planning on embarking on the 1100mi round trip drive to Burning Man starting Monday night. Considering that last year I broke down and ended up hitchhiking, this is quite the endeavor. I ended up hitching a ride from Lee Vining to Reno, then Reno to BLC. It was quite the adventure but not one I'd like to repeat. I'll update you guys! Wish me the best! |
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SCM Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3406 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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I've never been, but from what I've read, if you love your van you'll take something else. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8328 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Best!
I well recall your ‘23 “adventure” and admire returning to “clean that up.”
Have a boring, unadventurous, tool-free trip.  _________________ 1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman
Jonathan Weisheit, Race in Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dS7xiFn7I&t=500s |
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jimf909 Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 8192 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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I heard that nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.
Just weeks before Burning Man, you can still buy a ticket. Why has demand cooled?
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/burning-man-festival-tickets-still-available-19651843.php _________________ - Jim
Butcher wrote: |
This is the main fault with DIY'ers, they get together on these forums and pat themselves on their backs spreading bad information. |
Guilty as charged.
Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 3818
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Some of the desert is very salty, be sure to wash the van, including the underside, rinse out the rockers, and all the nooks and crannies very well to avoid massive corrosion issues. |
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Sodo Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 10673 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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The 'dust' doesn't rinse off.
You have to neutralize it with an acid. Such as a dilute vinegar spray. If you don't neutralize it, then you get it wet, it corrodes steel real fast.
I didn't like that stuff, much.
This is a new CV _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, NEW oil rings (!) 2Peloquins, 3knobs, SyncroShop pressure-oiled pinion-bearing & GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox.
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered original gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4572 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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https://www.saltaway.com
They push this stuff hard for boaters but works well on vehicles also. _________________ Currently:
'90 Syncro Westy 3 knob w/Zetec
The information age has morphed into the age of disinformation and willful ignorance. Agnotology!
All that's needed for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
Resist Kleptocratic Oligarchy (and Idiocracy)! |
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retroman Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2010 Posts: 237 Location: Reno (What is Rust???)
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Live near there and I would never take a van there. High alkaline talc like dust everywhere. If it rains the mud is even worse. _________________ 1967 bug recovering from a PO
1987 Vanagon Wolfsburg Weekender "Otto" been all over the place with never a problem! |
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5766 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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looking at the MSDS for this stuff it looks like an oleic acid (a form of soap) corrosion inhibitor, an organic solvent, and a surfactant. probably works based on the chemistry. seems like the right thing to spray the chassis down with after Burning Man or that romantic drive on the ocean beach.
my heart is with Burning Man but i'm too old and fat, poor, and uncool to be with the modern crowds. i'd love the vehicles, the environmental hostility, and the share vibe. but Canadian festivals eg Winnipeg Folk Festival do it for me now... chill vibe, no one out of control, leave your binoculars out on a tarp all day long unattended and they are still there when you come back. y'all got something right. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8328 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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retroman wrote: |
Live near there and I would never take a van there. High alkaline talc like dust everywhere. If it rains the mud is even worse. |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
They didn’t ask if we would or if he should. _________________ 1984 Westfailure/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
"Adding power makes you faster on the straights.
Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." — Colin Chapman
Jonathan Weisheit, Race in Peace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3dS7xiFn7I&t=500s
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Chootrain470 Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2023 Posts: 178 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
I don’t recall him asking if we think we would or if he should. |
Haha, yep I'm definitely taking the van. One of the main reasons I have it. From what I've been told, my grandparents took it once years ago. I'm honestly not super worried about the dust. This will be my 3rd year. I'm aware that a cleanup will be needed after. |
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5766 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
They didn’t ask if we would or if he should. |
thread drift just verifies these posts aren't AI! that alkali at Burning Man is no worse than a winter in MN. onward! _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18831 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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1100 mile round trip. Easy. What’s that 4 fill ups? Enjoy. |
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Love My Westy Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 1897
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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As I read this post about corrosion from the dust at BM, I couldn't help but think about another post i saw just the other day on the "Have You Seen One Lately" thread. Here is the photo that got me thinking:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/2527430.jpg
That van and the red pickup in Eagle Plains NWT are covered with Magnesium Chloride which is what they put on roads to keep the dust down, certainly not exactly Burning Man dust but extremely corrosive to any bare metal.
I have never seen a discussion on the Samba regarding Mag Cloride and Volkswagen Vans. I have had my van coated like the one in the photo by driving on dirt roads in Wyoming. They probably use it everywhere dust is a problem. It's a good idea to pressure wash it off whenever you get that crap all over your van. |
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RoryGirl Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 1000 Location: WestWorld Nanaimo BC
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Pretty sure driving around @ Burning Man you get a protective B.O. slick...so no worries  _________________ 1991 Twin Slider VR6
1985 Audi 4k |
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onwardtothestars Samba Member

Joined: April 04, 2007 Posts: 385 Location: Hazenville Pass Wyoming
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Love My Westy wrote: |
I have had my van coated like the one in the photo by driving on dirt roads in Wyoming. |
I've lived in and traveled Wyoming for the last 20 years and never experienced mag-chloride. I thought it was one of those Colorado things I escaped from. _________________ Beetle, Ghia, Vanagon Syncro, and more |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 3818
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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Chootrain470 wrote: |
E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
I don’t recall him asking if we think we would or if he should. |
Haha, yep I'm definitely taking the van. One of the main reasons I have it. From what I've been told, my grandparents took it once years ago. I'm honestly not super worried about the dust. This will be my 3rd year. I'm aware that a cleanup will be needed after. |
Is it really hip and edgy if your grandparents did it?  |
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vanis13 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2010 Posts: 4458 Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 9:23 am Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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zerotofifty wrote: |
Chootrain470 wrote: |
E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
I don’t recall him asking if we think we would or if he should. |
Haha, yep I'm definitely taking the van. One of the main reasons I have it. From what I've been told, my grandparents took it once years ago. I'm honestly not super worried about the dust. This will be my 3rd year. I'm aware that a cleanup will be needed after. |
Is it really hip and edgy if your grandparents did it?  |
Grandparents, yes
Parents, no _________________ 83.5 Westy with Subaru 2.5, 4 spd manual, center seat, COLD A/C on 134a!, Winter camp heated with an Espar B4 gasoline furnace
www.SuperVanagon.com - some stuff I make |
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jimf909 Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 8192 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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zerotofifty wrote: |
Chootrain470 wrote: |
E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
I don’t recall him asking if we think we would or if he should. |
Haha, yep I'm definitely taking the van. One of the main reasons I have it. From what I've been told, my grandparents took it once years ago. I'm honestly not super worried about the dust. This will be my 3rd year. I'm aware that a cleanup will be needed after. |
Is it really hip and edgy if your grandparents did it?  |
When did the OP mention "hip and edgy"? This sounds like a needless insight to your projections. _________________ - Jim
Butcher wrote: |
This is the main fault with DIY'ers, they get together on these forums and pat themselves on their backs spreading bad information. |
Guilty as charged.
Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 3818
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Burning Man 2024 |
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jimf909 wrote: |
zerotofifty wrote: |
Chootrain470 wrote: |
E1 wrote: |
The OP is indeed going to Burning Man.
I don’t recall him asking if we think we would or if he should. |
Haha, yep I'm definitely taking the van. One of the main reasons I have it. From what I've been told, my grandparents took it once years ago. I'm honestly not super worried about the dust. This will be my 3rd year. I'm aware that a cleanup will be needed after. |
Is it really hip and edgy if your grandparents did it?  |
When did the OP mention "hip and edgy"? This sounds like a needless insight to your projections. |
that's heavy dude, like real man. Is you saying the burningman aint hip nor edgy?
Tell me it aint so man.  |
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