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daisy71
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 Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:19 am Post subject: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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Would it make sense to put on 1641 pistons and jugs for a daily driver? I don't mind the stock 1600 but a bit more kick to keep up with traffic is always nice.
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Brian
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It would make more sense to slip in some jugs to make a 1835. I had a 1641 and it was great, but you can get a little more kick for, barely, more money.
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Cusser
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| Brian wrote: |
| It would make more sense to slip in some jugs to make a 1835. I had a 1641 and it was great, but you can get a little more kick for, barely, more money. |
I love my 1835 !!!
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Multi69s
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gt1953
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Um no Mr. Cusser does not have a Baja. But he will tell us that.
As far as going to a 1641 hardly worth it. Save you $$ and then decide what you want.
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goober
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It's easy to do. I've been running 1641 single-ports in my street-bajas (engines are enclosed) for years without any problems. You're only going to get a couple more horsepower but it helps.
Where I noticed the improvement the most was being able to climb hills better in 4th gear. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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| daisy71 wrote: |
| Would it make sense to put on 1641 pistons and jugs for a daily driver? I don't mind the stock 1600 but a bit more kick to keep up with traffic is always nice. |
The "advantage" of the 1641cc is that the stuff is just bolt-in; nonetheless, it would be "a little" more power, but I would never tear down a working 1500cc or 1600cc engine to install those. However, if one was doing a top end build anyway and wanted to do this, would only cost a few dollars more.
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| Um no Mr. Cusser does not have a Baja. But he will tell us that. |
No, my 1835cc engine is not in a Baja. It was in my 1970 sedan for 17 years using dealer-installed AC, sat idle for like 5 years, then has been in my 1971 Convertible for about a decade. I do live in Arizona though, doesn't get much hotter than the 117F we had here last Friday. I don't run a doghouse cooler either, I've run an external cooler on the front (hidden) side of the fan shroud since back in 1976 - the kind of cooler that many say won't work. And I have engine lid standoffs.
Are my cylinders scored or out-of-round due to heat? I have no idea, I last saw them when I bolted them on in 1986 !!!
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mhisel
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| Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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| 1679cc slips (88pistons) into to the case and open/machine heads. |
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pernest
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| Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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My wife and I have been driving a '73 std beetle as a back up car to our also old Chevy Lumina for over 18 years with a 1641. The engine was rebuilt in 1997 and we have put over 70 thousand miles on it.
I would go back to 1600 if it ever needs to be rebuilt again under our watch but the 1641 has never run hot and is very dependable.
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morymob
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:43 am Post subject: Re: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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| My biggest boost on that size eng was adding a 2bbl carb, solved the hill problems on roads i usually use or getting upto speed in traffic, rarelly did the 70's mph tho. |
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danlewister
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:15 am Post subject: Re: 1641 for a daily driver? |
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| I took my stock 1600 and built it into a 1641 as a daily driver. It gave me a little more boost, which was all I wanted at the time. This was a recommendation from a long time vw mechanic after I told him what I wanted. I was doing a rebuild anyway and had a tight budget. You'd be surprised by how much power this engine can produce if it is well-tuned. This mechanic ran a rail buggy with this size engine and stock carburetor and was able to outrun other who spent thousands more to get more power! |
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