Best carb and distributor combo for a stock 1600SP?

A-Wall · Samba Member Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 267

I've been doing a lot of searching but I still can't make a clear decision.

My current setup is a 30 PICT-3 and a 009. I can't get it to run right at idle. Driving seems ok but it definafely has the flat spot I've been reading about. I really like the idea of a SVDA distributor, I'm looking at the complete Pertronics one (any good?). What is a good match for a stock or stock style carb? I've read that I can't run my -3 with a svda, so I think I don't want to waste my time with it.

Can you run a 30 pict-1 with svda? Seems like my kind of tuneable basic carb.

Or am I stuck with a 34 pict-3? Will it be too much for a single port?

Are any of the new carbs listed on the Cip1 site any good or what are my other options?

The engine is in good shape, no smoke or leaks, valves are adjusted and it cruises nice so far.

Any help would be great! I just want to drive it so bad and not waste my time with my current setup. I also plan on ordering a scat degree pulley.

One last question what's a good plug I should use?

Thanks in advance!

Teeroy

Keep the 30 pict 3 and look for a 113-905-205T from a 69-70 Beetle.

You should be able to make it run without flat spot with the 009, the 34 pict 3 is the troublesome one with the 009. Make sure the vac port is capped. I would still look for a 205 even if you get it to run better with the 009.

The 34 pict 3 won't fit your singleport manifold without an adapter.
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kevhum · Samba Member Joined: April 05, 2008 Posts: 726

I found this follow the link http://www.airsupplyvw.co.uk/flubberdubbers/solexwith009.html

A-Wall · Samba Member Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 267

Now that I know some options, everthing in the link above would apply to a 30 pict-3? What jet size would I have to increase to?

Also reading about the 205 distributor.

Thanks for the help so far, keep it coming!

Rockstar Suzuki · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:10 am Post subject:

I've had these on for about 6 months with a german 009 and they are worlds better than stock.Increased power and pulls to 5000 rpm where the stock solex was done about 4200 Smile

I opened them up when I got them and had to set the floats but they were clean inside and installed easy.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=633430633430

Augiedoggy · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject:

Rockstar Suzuki · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:26 pm Post subject:

How about http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=633430
And yes they are on a stock 1970 Singleport Smile

DarthWeber · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject:

Best carb/distributor combo for a 1600 IMHO, Kadrons and an SVDA. You'll have to drill a carb to get port vacuum. Although many moons ago I ran my Kads with an 009 with no problems - no flat spots.

borninabus · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject:

RailBoy

Ok, I'll say something since no one has covered it yet...

To get the 34 pict 3 to run right with a 009 distributor you need to have the carb jetted right...

I had the same problem like many do when using the 34 pict 3 with an 009.

If you know of a reputable VW guy, he can shed some light on this, why, it is how you generally solve the problem.. It has to do with the mains and plump jet sizes in the carb.. That is the trick, a little more fuel on the pump circuit and a little increase in the mains will clean it up, no more flat spot.

I know I make it out like it is easy to do, but to be honest I had to have my local VW Wizard do mine up, and that is with no drilling to butter fly as some say needs to be done...

So, just call around or ask your friends who is the VW Wizard Guy in your area who knows how to fix the carb with the right jets or a drill, which can do it, you can solve your problem with out swapping anything out. That is of course your distributor is in good working order, remember to lube the shaft under the rotor button at every oil change, just a few drops on the camel hair is all you need... People have been recommending Marvel Mystery Oil for years for this application...

Hope this helps, will keep from having to buy other components that really are just obsorbing your wallet.... RB

DarthWeber · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject:

Eaallred · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject:

I netted 31.1 mpg in my old bus doing 65mph @ 4000rpm with its singleport 1600. Wonder what that motor would have done in a bug!

Ran a 30 pict with an 034 distributor timed at 32 btdc total centrifugal advance ( mid 40's with vac line attatched), 115 main jet.

I'm at 4400 ft elevation, so adjust for your car accrdingly, as well as for any differences between motors.

It's a good "maintenance free" setup if you don't care about max power and all that stuff IMHO.

I guess the short story is, an 034 works great with the 30 PICT.
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pkdmslf · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject:

I originally had a 1500SP in my rail with a 34PICT3 and 009 distributor with the Pertronix electronic module in it. I could not get the carb adjusted right to save my life. It wouldn't idle correctly and had a bad flat spot just off idle. I had to keep the rpms up to keep it running. Had a 1600dp installed with a 34PICT 3 and a SVDA distributor and Pertronix electronic module and it's ran fine since day one. Not sure of the model number of the distributor (it was a used one).

A-Wall · Samba Member Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 267

Ideally I'd like to stick with a stockish style setup for now to buy me some tine to look into a really nice dual carb setup. Right now my focus is reliability, mileage and parts availability.

Ideas I like but still have questions:

adapting a 34 pict-3 to my intake to use a svda, what size jets would I need to run it on a SP?

Filling the hole in the throttle plate on my 30 pict-3 to use my 009, again what size jets would I need?

Using a 205 distributor, I'll have to read more about them, I still don't understand them fully.

Other options are a 30 pict-1 with a mech advance distributor.

Keep it coming. Learning alot and I want to drive this car without it stalling everytime I clutch in!

Thanks so far

borninabus · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:38 am Post subject:

57baja · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject:

Single-port Kadrons, jetted 55/130 with an SVDA distributor is the best for the money, if you ask me.
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A-Wall · Samba Member Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 267

pupjoint · Samba Member Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 1145

i use B5HS

borninabus · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:29 am Post subject:

[email protected] · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:33 am Post subject:

when you richen jetting to elminate the 34/009 flat spot, your MPG takes a big hit. That's why the 009 is such a poor match to the 34 series carbs.
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