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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Extending Slider Hinge Reply with quote

I know that someone had to done did this all ready, and also saw that someone is selling the extended hindge in the forsale section but it's too pricey. I realize and know that its more involved then just the hindge and I would like to give this job a try and extend my rear Slider door hindge and track. I've got a brain fart and need to lenghten the U hindge 1st.
So who's done, it and who's got the info to help me make the decission if I want to tackel this venture? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the information on doing a late model van.

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/VehicleSpecific/T3/info/mods/hinge/hinge.htm


Doing an early model is the same as far as the U portion of the hinge, but you do not have to do any cutting on the body. You do, however, have to make a new stop for the slider/trolley so that the door starts to swing inward at the right time.

I have done both early and late and I didn't use the two hing method. I simply added a section in between the original. Yes, that means two welds as opposed to one, but done correctly, this is not a concern. Mine has been on the van for years with not a single problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, how early is early?

Is the cut over when the outside handle switched and the latches changed?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge Reply with quote

I think TriStar Eric on this chat site has done it via cut and weld too. If you find one of his recent posts and p-mail him he'll likely tell you more. He often documents with pics too.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone got any info or Pics on how to do this job? The Brick yard pics are very hard to see anything.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to a u-PULL-IT to chase down a donor slider hindge. Are all years of Vanagon rear slider hindge the same? I have a 1987, or what years do I need to watch for? Question
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoW.. Now that's what I needed to see. Thanks much.

But a few questions..
1.. Are the Donnor hinge all the same for Vanagons. Or do I need a late year for my 1987?

2.. The Hinge extention is easily understood, but not sure about the hinge roller track. Does that get shortened by the same amount that I extended the hinge arm?

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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it necessary to shorten the roller track? Can't you just add a stop?
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDXWesty wrote:
Why is it necessary to shorten the roller track? Can't you just add a stop?


Ding-gggggg.. Hey good question why didn't I think of that?
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that I look closely at the mechanism, it does look like you need to shorten the track so the inner bearing has some place to go as the hinge pivots closed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the track follower needs to still do it's thing and make a left turn at the end of the track.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Vanagon is a 1987 and I'm having troubles locating a donnor slider hinge from a scrap yard. Does anyone know if the slider side of the door hinge is the same on all years? Found several earlier years, just no luck with the later year Vanagons. So if the outer door side of the hinge is the same on all years I was thinking of just using that section to extend my hinge. Question
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on guys someone must know this U-Hinge answer?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge Reply with quote

<<I know that someone had to done did this all ready, and also saw that someone is selling the extended hindge in the forsale section but it's too pricey>>>

Why is it too pricey?

All the R&D is done, the work is done, and ready to be installed--no internet instruction sheet is going to hand you the hinge finished--hence the cost of a finished product.

I think the price is pretty reasonable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry Kay Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge

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Why is it too pricey?

All the R&D is done, the work is done, and ready to be installed--no internet instruction sheet is going to hand you the hinge finished--hence the cost of a finished product.

I think the price is pretty reasonable.


Dude, I simply asked a question about the Hinge, same question that many of us have. Many guys have done this job themselves some for cost reasons, and some just because. Are you claiming to inventing the idea, and design?

Terry. Yes for some of us $200+ bucks plus either sending our current hinge in or an additional $50.00 core charge is down right Pricey.. And that's for a used god condition hinge, not a refurbished one with new rollers etc. If I had the free money and could afford one I would probably buy one from Eric. Last I looked you don't even sell these items, although I have purchassed off of you before, probably not again. Though your prices were a bit Hi, but now it shows who has the bucks and who's trying to do our own things to get the family out.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ton=Search
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the slider part is different from early to late models on the early models all you have to do is bolt in a new stop by the same amount as you have lengthened the hinge
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<<Are you claiming to inventing the idea, and design?>>

Dude.
Nope, all I said was somebody else has all the work done, and has the job down pat---has it all figured out.

<<Yes for some of us $200+ bucks plus either sending our current hinge in or an additional $50.00 core charge is down right Pricey.. And that's for a used god condition hinge, not a refurbished one with new rollers etc. If I had the free money and could afford one I would probably buy one>>

Again here's an often copped outlet.
You have & own possibly the most expensive to own per mile traveled vehicle on the planet and your crying about the price.

The stuff is all antique, and mostly NLA or custom built, and your worried about the price of the parts ?

Buy a Chevy.
Take a Silver Dog on your next trip.
Not expensive at all.

Put the stock wheels & tires back on the Van and you won't need to spend a dime in getting the sliding door to clear them.

Huh--
Somebody dropped some bucks for the bling--but can't get in & outa the ride---

Imagine that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i gave this about a second's thought:

1. I need (want) the hinge.
2. I can do it myself, but am getting a headache thinking about it.
3. Somebody has the issue solved and engineered already? Hell yeah!

I decided that my time and headache is worth $200. Hell, since I'm in PDX, I might just have Eric do it for me so that I can make it even easier on myself.

And, alas, all this is so I can spend even more money on 25mm spacers to bump my rear wheels out for a more aggressive look......

I agree with T.K.
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