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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject: IRS air ride Reply with quote

I'm having a heck of a time finding information on putting in rear bags on my 69 square. I am not seasoned in forums and am just looking for pointers on where or how best to search this. Any info would be much obliged. My car, Frida, is currently in pieces and want to put her back together right.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

best of luck, there are no kits and almost all aircooled vw's on bags are hokey pokey bullshit. Lookup "squareonair" he doesn't post here much anymore, but he's one of the few that know what they are doing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

I am also one of the folks that has bagged a sqaureback. the rear is much easier to do that the front with a stock t3 beam.
On the IRS rear you need to build upper an lower platforms that mount a dual convoluted bag, run lines and either have shraeder valves or a compressor on board.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

I thought that square is swing axle. He's one of the few ive found with a bit of a break down.

Vwfye will you share how your plates are welded on?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

IRS and swing set up are very similar. The DDB system was not welded on, it was all bolt on parts. They replaced the rear shocks and I removed the rear torsion bars. I think I still have an IRS part somewhere. If I can find it, I'll post up a pic.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

Here are some pictures I've found while searching around.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

So it looks like installing a cross support is the way to go. Wish I could lift on and off the body easily so I could see what gets in the way hahaha. I certainly appreciate it
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

There was no extra bar welded onto the set up I had. Nor for the IRS version of it. Everything on the rear was bolt on.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

vwfye wrote:
The DDB system was not welded on, it was all bolt on parts.
Do you have a link to this? I've never seen anything "bolt on" for a bag setup for a type3. I'm curious on how easy & safe it would be. I've had several bolt on airside stuff for my S10 and full-size trucks, but not VW.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

well, I think I had over 45k miles on mine when I sold the car. i will try and find the rear IRS mount that I have somewhere in the deep reaches of my garage.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

Any info/ photos I'd be very appreciative of. This is my first for a vw with torsion and I want to make sure I do it sound and have the clearance
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: IRS air ride Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
best of luck, there are no kits and almost all aircooled vw's on bags are hokey pokey bullshit. Lookup "squareonair" he doesn't post here much anymore, but he's one of the few that know what they are doing

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Patrick Colvard is still building VW cars/beams etc at SOA Speed Shop in MO.
He also built a notchback on air ride.
You'd be wise to ship your car to him or pay him to build the components & ship them to you!
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