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steven wood Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 1647 Location: Virginia, NOT West Virginia!
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject: split door questions |
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| on split doors, are the interior door handles in different locations than early oval doors? |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9417 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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No. _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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steven wood Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 1647 Location: Virginia, NOT West Virginia!
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| so early oval door panels would fit a split door? if your looking at an early door that has a one piece split glass in it, How can you tell if it is a split door and NOT an early oval door that has been reworked to fit a split regulator and glass. Do you need to pull the door panel off to really know? |
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Yustrn JHC Controla

Joined: August 01, 2000 Posts: 5494 Location: Ovaland, CA
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hold up.
Oval door the window regulator is in a different spot, not buy much but it is different if I remember correct so no your door panels are going to be different on split vs early oval.
The second thing you need to look at Steven is that you can EASILY tell a split door from a Oval door, check out an Oval door where the vent wing is if your looking down the window channel there is a little bump inward to where it would meet up to the vent wing, a split window door the window channel is the same size all the way down there is not a little lip or a little bump on there. _________________ I own a copy of "The Car of the Century" by Garwood. This means I am authorized to act like a twat in thesamba forums. |
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type4split Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 734 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: door panel |
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ok, i've done some searches and this looks like the best post.
i might be a bit confused. One says yes, one says no. which is it. i have a set of '54 door going on my '52 (until I find split doors)
are the door panels interchangable? will split door panels fit on the '54 doors?
when you say hte window reg. is slightly different how much are we talking? _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
Part, parts and more parts |
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horatiocaine Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2004 Posts: 207
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: Yustrn is correct |
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| Yustrn is correct, exactly what he says in addition the door check strap is a slot on an split door and a hole on an oval door. If I recall correctly the bottom bracket built into the door for a split window door regulator is different or not present on an oval door, but I am old and its been a long time since I owned a split. |
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Yustrn JHC Controla

Joined: August 01, 2000 Posts: 5494 Location: Ovaland, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I have a split door here currently if you need better pics or measurements etc.
Might be willing to drop the price a little too if you want the door.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=791907 _________________ I own a copy of "The Car of the Century" by Garwood. This means I am authorized to act like a twat in thesamba forums. |
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splitmike Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2004 Posts: 510 Location: Splitsville
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Door panels will be interchange.... the location IS different. |
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ZwitterND Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2005 Posts: 1453 Location: Fargo, ND
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing like cranking up a panel discussion to get a handle on things, this looks like an open and shut case....no split decision. _________________ Bill |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 28327 Location: Free State of Florida
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: split door questions |
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| steven wood wrote: |
| on split doors, are the interior door handles in different locations than early oval doors? |
Yes they are. The window crank is in the same position, but the door handle is a half-inch higher on the split door. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
Heinz Nordhoff |
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johan_l Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 533
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
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So, this door I bought have the "pin style" door stop, not the flat one... still it is "one piece" windows... What year? My early 51 had the flat door stops...
sorry, no better pics, door is in storage... _________________ Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate |
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Bengt H Samba Member
Joined: September 11, 2005 Posts: 334 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| The flat style was often replaced with a round pin because the flat one broke off, your door looks to bee a -50-52 door. |
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drscope Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 15273 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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So, this door I bought have the "pin style" door stop, not the flat one... still it is "one piece" windows... What year? My early 51 had the flat door stops...
sorry, no better pics, door is in storage... |
At first glance I thought that door had a vent window! _________________ Mother Nature is a Mean Evil Bitch! |
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johan_l Samba Member

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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 28327 Location: Free State of Florida
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Looks to be the older-style door, with the higher door handle. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
Heinz Nordhoff |
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johan_l Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 533
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| It looked original, but i did not think much about it - just noted that it was not the same as the og-door. I'll post a pic of it next time I'm there... |
You were correct Bengt, the round pin was retrofitted.
I'm angry at myself of just cutting the 2 perfectly good flat door stops when getting my splitted split car...
But perhaps one can make such a flat stop? I don't have any of the pieces left... All fell apart... Pics? _________________ Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate |
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virtanen Samba Member

Joined: January 08, 2006 Posts: 1507 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean these?
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johan_l Samba Member

Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 533
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
probably are those, but as I cut them I don't know how they should look...
I'm searching for the split 50/51 door check straps...
If you could make me a "drawing" I would be very happy! I.e. with, length and thickness...
If I have luck, some of the parts are still left inside the doors, but as there are no bottom part of the door the chanses are slim... If I remember there were some squary piece somewhere too... _________________ Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate |
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eurodub Samba Member

Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1321
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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i can send you a door check. you can copy it and return it afterward?
i'll get a pic soon
Mihai _________________ 1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
1976 MK1 Golf |
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johan_l Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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i can send you a door check. you can copy it and return it afterward?
i'll get a pic soon
Mihai |
thanks for the offer, but since I have soo little time right now, I cannot say when I get the time to do it...
if some of the parts are attached to door and/or body, those parts will likely still be attached at the leftovers... _________________ Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate |
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