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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:43 pm    Post subject: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

Hi,

Last week was the first time i pulled my 36hp engine, & among other things I noticed is there is no accel tube coming from the body to the engine. All there is a long fuel line tube - so it looks. and only went about a foot.

I am betting it was not designed like this, and would now explain why the accel tube going thru the fan shroud was hose-clamped right behind the shroud.

Have had the car ~ 15 years and the accel system worked fine, except letting off the gas, the carb return would not go all the way so was at a slightly fast idle.. Not sure if it is related to the fuel line tube or not.

If there was a metal tube coming from the body, how was it anchored there.?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

I might be wrong, and this is not my area of expertise.
But IIRC some of the earlier cars didn't have the "Bowden" tube between the tunnel accel cable tube and the firewall.

The hose clamp on the accel tube through the fan shroud, is to keep it from sliding fore and aft as the throttle is actuated.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

The Bowden tube/flexible cable setup was first used with the 1966 model year.

Before that, the accelerator cable was a rigid wire.

For the later setup to work on an earlier car, you need the return spring setup found on 1966 and later carbs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

mr matt wrote:
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If there was a metal tube coming from the body, how was it anchored there.?

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There is no tube connecting the chassis to the body. The cable pokes out this seal in the back of the chassis where the cable exits and goes through the tube that sticks through the fan shroud.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

OK, great, so I know.

My accel return spring is of the horizontal kind, which plays against the fan shroud - there is no spring between the accel cable and the carb.

Not sure why the PO - or mechanic of, put a fuel line over the cable to some extent. Possibly to protect it...?

Will be shuttling under the bug this weekend and look more closely, esp for that rubber seal
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

janerick3 wrote:
The Bowden tube/flexible cable setup was first used with the 1966 model year.

Before that, the accelerator cable was a rigid wire.

For the later setup to work on an earlier car, you need the return spring setup found on 1966 and later carbs.



What esp led me to believe that a tube-from-body was there was the clamp behind the fan shroud; how else does that tube stay in place with the acell horizontal spring setup? Thought the shroud tube had to jam into something as it left the engine bay
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

The spring and little round keeper (5) holds it tight.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

Thanks, will really have to look at that in detail in putting it back together..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

You also need the sleeve that fits over the spring. the little round keeper Nancy speaks of is held in place between the sleeve and throttle lever. and the Bowden tube has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Clutch cable goes through that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

And i think I have some of those little round keepers if you need one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

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And i think I have some of those little round keepers if you need one.


Thank you very much! I should be ok, but when I get to that step, I'll let you know... Taking my time with it, and replacing items while it is out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... Reply with quote

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