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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:43 pm Post subject: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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Hi,
Last week was the first time i pulled my 36hp engine, & among other things I noticed is there is no accel tube coming from the body to the engine. All there is a long fuel line tube - so it looks. and only went about a foot.
I am betting it was not designed like this, and would now explain why the accel tube going thru the fan shroud was hose-clamped right behind the shroud.
Have had the car ~ 15 years and the accel system worked fine, except letting off the gas, the carb return would not go all the way so was at a slightly fast idle.. Not sure if it is related to the fuel line tube or not.
If there was a metal tube coming from the body, how was it anchored there.?
Thanks! _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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67rustavenger Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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I might be wrong, and this is not my area of expertise.
But IIRC some of the earlier cars didn't have the "Bowden" tube between the tunnel accel cable tube and the firewall.
The hose clamp on the accel tube through the fan shroud, is to keep it from sliding fore and aft as the throttle is actuated. _________________ I have learned over the years.
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janerick3 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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The Bowden tube/flexible cable setup was first used with the 1966 model year.
Before that, the accelerator cable was a rigid wire.
For the later setup to work on an earlier car, you need the return spring setup found on 1966 and later carbs. _________________ Thanks,
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3856 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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mr matt wrote: |
Hi,
If there was a metal tube coming from the body, how was it anchored there.?
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There is no tube connecting the chassis to the body. The cable pokes out this seal in the back of the chassis where the cable exits and goes through the tube that sticks through the fan shroud.
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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OK, great, so I know.
My accel return spring is of the horizontal kind, which plays against the fan shroud - there is no spring between the accel cable and the carb.
Not sure why the PO - or mechanic of, put a fuel line over the cable to some extent. Possibly to protect it...?
Will be shuttling under the bug this weekend and look more closely, esp for that rubber seal _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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janerick3 wrote: |
The Bowden tube/flexible cable setup was first used with the 1966 model year.
Before that, the accelerator cable was a rigid wire.
For the later setup to work on an earlier car, you need the return spring setup found on 1966 and later carbs. |
What esp led me to believe that a tube-from-body was there was the clamp behind the fan shroud; how else does that tube stay in place with the acell horizontal spring setup? Thought the shroud tube had to jam into something as it left the engine bay _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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The spring and little round keeper (5) holds it tight.
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:41 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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Thanks, will really have to look at that in detail in putting it back together.. _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
1971 Convertible beetle
1977 Westfalia, FI, Berlin interior |
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D. Haviland Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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You also need the sleeve that fits over the spring. the little round keeper Nancy speaks of is held in place between the sleeve and throttle lever. and the Bowden tube has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Clutch cable goes through that. |
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D. Haviland Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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And i think I have some of those little round keepers if you need one. |
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mr matt Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Accelerator tube from body, I am sure there was one... |
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D. Haviland wrote: |
And i think I have some of those little round keepers if you need one. |
Thank you very much! I should be ok, but when I get to that step, I'll let you know... Taking my time with it, and replacing items while it is out. _________________ 1955 3-fold semaphore Oval beetle
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