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cru62
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: 1967 Master cylinder on an earlier bus |
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I have an excellent used '67 dual circuit MC with an NOS rebuild kit which I would like to use on the Goat'el which is '61. (I know where kombisutra and billmay stand on this issue  ) Is it compatible with the early brakes or should I switch over to late brakes? I know I would need to swap the entire beam. That wouldn't be a bad thing as I would have a front sway bar which would be a plus. I still have a small nut trans. Would the late front brakes cause any problems with the early rear brakes?
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1955-67 slave cylinder ID sizes are same. Use it if you want to or sell it to a 1967 owner for big bucks and install a 1971-79 MC for far less.
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cru62
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| 1955-67 slave cylinder ID sizes are same. Use it if you want to or sell it to a 1967 owner for big bucks and install a 1971-79 MC for far less. |
I've got three of them that I tried to sell with no offers. I guess I'll just use them myself.
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kombisutra
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Butchering the charm of the good old bus with NOT charming Star Wars technical bullshit will offend the hell out of it... don't be surprised if this happens:
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WOW! I can't wait to see what happens when I convert to 12V!!!!
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I did it to my '62. The previous owner had already installed all the rest of the '67 running gear, so it wasn't a huge stretch. Works fine. Much safer. I've had brakes go out, so that's not something I care to risk. I also put 3 point retractable seat belts in ::gasp::! They can't deduct points for safety things if properly/cleanly installed...
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cru62
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I dismantled a '67 deluxe last century and kept ALL of the brake parts. When it is done the '61 will have the MC w/ original pushrod/arm and the correct pedal pan. I like going but stopping is even better!
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kombisutra
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| I dismantled a '67 deluxe last century and kept ALL of the brake parts. When it is done the '61 will have the MC w/ original pushrod/arm and the correct pedal pan. I like going but stopping is even better! |
IF you convert the brake lines exactly like the 67, maybe I'll cut you some slack. The whole alien head sprouting legs, is what happens when "clever" hippies fucked-up all the buses most of us have taken on. The best examples have always come to us bone stock. There's a splitter just like in the rear of the main brake line, at the front. You'll need to install it in order to prevent the exploding head scene. Be conscientious. |
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| cru62 wrote: |
| WOW! I can't wait to see what happens when I convert to 12V!!!! |
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I guarantee you'll see better!
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IF you convert the brake lines exactly like the 67, maybe I'll cut you some slack. The whole alien head sprouting legs, is what happens when "clever" hippies fucked-up all the buses most of us have taken on. The best examples have always come to us bone stock. There's a splitter just like in the rear of the main brake line, at the front. You'll need to install it in order to prevent the exploding head scene. Be conscientious. |
I forgot to mention that I had all the brake line stuff as well. And luckily this bus wasn't hacked to begin with. Even has uncut wheel wells, which is a plus. AND it came with a TON of rust! Hooray for me! My plan at the moment is to get it rolling for the 2012 SST. I would really like to get it done before OCTO in June 2011 so I can camp with VTO. The new venue is excellent.
crofty-I assume you mean my wipers will work better. I don't think I can install 2-speed wipers.
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| I dismantled a '67 deluxe last century and kept ALL of the brake parts. When it is done the '61 will have the MC w/ original pushrod/arm and the correct pedal pan. I like going but stopping is even better! |
did you save the front sway bar that was stock only on 66 and 67 bus? i helped Joe Slack put one on his 60 DD walkthrough panel. i also installed 1 on my 65 walk thru panel/camper---direct bolt on.
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I saved it but the beam in my bus is a stock '61 and I don't think it will bolt on except to the later torsion arms.
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I thought the bushing would only fit on the later torsion arms.
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Bill- I looked at the '67 beam I have and it looks like you are correct and the sway bar will simply bolt on. I was think it was like the '68 BJ beam I had in my DC. The sway bar on that actually bolted onto the lower torsion arm and had a bushing.
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