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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: yet another predicament... Reply with quote

i am thinking about dropping my 64 baja body on a late model pan. with irs and bj front end. what are some draw backs other than bj. i will keep the bj front. second....my tires will rub the long travel torsion tube how can i fix this? thanks for helpn
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youll be fine and get smaller tires (30s)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30's are very close. i will be using stock arms. not heavy off roading just occasional mud holes. will it work?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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30's are very close. i will be using stock arms. not heavy off roading just occasional mud holes. will it work?


My friend has 31"s u can see how close it is
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so 30's? and my pop doesnt believe that swingaxle will lean out when lifted. he says it will be fine and not to worry about it. but i dont wanna wear out tires that fast
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so 30's? and my pop doesnt believe that swingaxle will lean out when lifted. he says it will be fine and not to worry about it. but i dont wanna wear out tires that fast


Haha show him this pic of mine then
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And they don't eat the tires that fast
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how fast do they wear out
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get shorter torsion bars and flat caps.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can i run torsion bars out of a older bug? and use caps from that bug? if not how long?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanner_122 wrote:
VWMan#30 wrote:
so 30's? and my pop doesnt believe that swingaxle will lean out when lifted. he says it will be fine and not to worry about it. but i dont wanna wear out tires that fast


Haha show him this pic of mine then

And they don't eat the tires that fast


Umm, my wheels definitely camber IN at the top. Is that bad? haha.

Tires have been on the bug since around '85, if that gives any indication how long they last. I'm more worried about the dry rot than the tread loss.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VWMan#30 wrote:
can i run torsion bars out of a older bug? and use caps from that bug? if not how long?


Yes you can. You need the short bars, spring plates, and outer grommet.

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31s are too big for a stock rear end. They will rub all over the inside of the wheel wells. 30's won't rub if you keep the stock bump stop. Hibbards book show how you can beat the wheel wells to fit 31s if you are stuck on getting them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not running it hard will 31's still rub??
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am going to swap my swinger for an irs on my 64 pan. i will just cut the spring plate and drill holes for the trailing arms to bolt to.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeff930 wrote:
If you're not running it hard will 31's still rub??


nope u will be fine.. u have between 1/2" and 1/4"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you're not running it hard will 31's still rub??


Define "not hard". Like on the streets? Maybe. At highway speeds, a large 31" tire could balloon and rub the torsion tube.

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I have both 30s and 31s on rims ready to go. I also have short torsion tubes... I am going to run the 30's. I'd rather have the 1/2" extra suspension travel than the 1/2" of ground clearance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotrat wrote:
jeff930 wrote:
If you're not running it hard will 31's still rub??


Define "not hard". Like on the streets? Maybe. At highway speeds, a large 31" tire could balloon and rub the torsion tube.

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I have both 30s and 31s on rims ready to go. I also have short torsion tubes... I am going to run the 30's. I'd rather have the 1/2" extra suspension travel than the 1/2" of ground clearance.


Fire roads mostly. Think I have 31's now but they are gone smooth and I never got to see them new.
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