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MTT3107 Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2021 Posts: 389 Location: KY
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:54 am Post subject: oil temp sensor install |
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Hi, I want to install this oil temp sensor on my engine, on the blank plate at the bottom of the case.
Can anybody here tell me what kind of tap I need to cut those threads ?
Outside diameter of the threads is just over 10mm.
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Dale M. Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20805 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:31 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Are the threads SAE or Metric.....
What is exact thread count and what is exact diameter of threads?
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Dan_Lockwood Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2023 Posts: 446 Location: Clare MI
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:35 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Not to hijack this thread, but is the 2-bolt plate a "good" place to mount the oil temp sender?
Regardless of the work required to do so, is there a "better" place to install the oil temp sender?
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:47 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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It's a good place _________________ Glenn
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Dan_Lockwood Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:25 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Glenn wrote: |
It's a good place |
Thanks Glenn! |
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Dan_Lockwood Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:31 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Glenn, got to thinking about my build and with the sump on the bottom, would it be better to drill/tap the side casting and insert my sensor there? I'll have a skid plate protecting that area when finished.
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MTT3107 Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2021 Posts: 389 Location: KY
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:06 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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What is exact thread count and what is exact diameter of threads?
They make gauges to tell you all this! |
Don't know the thread count....
I have a M10x1.25 tap, drilled and tapped a hole in a piece of angle iron with it, but than didn't work...
I think it would have to be a M10x1.0, but am not sure.
And yes, I know there a gauges for this, but it would be easier for me to just be able to buy the right tap, instead of buying the gauges ( which in all likelihood will never need again), and then buy the right tap. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 11042 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:13 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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It appears to me, that the sensor has tapered threads. Like 1/8" NPT.
Who is the sensor manufacturer?
Dan, You can tap the sump. But you'll likely get different temp readings than from the T3 sump plate. _________________ I have learned over the years.
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Don Jones Samba Member

Joined: April 09, 2020 Posts: 222 Location: Makaha, Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:31 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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I've tried mounting the sensor in the oil filter bracket, oil relief plug and finally in the steel plate talked about here. Plate mounting is the strongest as it's steel and the easier to get to if you have to remove / install. Oil temp readings are the same at all locations.
Here's the size, at least that is what mine is:
VDO-323-057 - 323057 - 300F DEGREE OIL TEMPERATURE SENDER / SENDING UNIT 1/8-27 NPT
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MTT3107 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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@ Don Jones :
Thanks !
Just ordered the corresponding tap.
@rustavenger :
Manufacturer is VDO. |
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fl59bug Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2005 Posts: 2066 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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I can't remember where I bought mine from, but I'm running this exact oil temp sender and location. I purchased it already drilled and tapped.
Here is one from Appletree Automotive:
https://www.appletreeauto.com/type-3-dipstick-bloc...h0QAvD_BwE
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MTT3107 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Thanks for that tip !
But I just ordered the tap from amazon.
$ 6.56, so I saved some money !  |
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Don Jones Samba Member

Joined: April 09, 2020 Posts: 222 Location: Makaha, Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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MTT3107 wrote: |
Thanks for that tip !
But I just ordered the tap from amazon.
$ 6.56, so I saved some money !  |
May as well grab the correct drill for the 1/8" NPT from amazon also.
Clamp the plate to a board, eg. 2x4 when drilling to prevent mishap when drill bit bites going thru the plate. Find your enter and center punch it.
I did my drilling in 3-steps w/ cutting fluid. Didn't want to screw up and have to purchase another plate. |
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Murt Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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How are these senders connected electrically to the gauge?
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:40 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Murt wrote: |
How are these senders connected electrically to the gauge?
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With a wire
You use the left terminal.
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RWK Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:15 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Don't tap too deep, pipe taps are tapered, if you go too deep it will not seal, try 4-5 turns then check with sender, you want a few threads left above the plate on the sender. 3-4 turns on pipe threads is the min. _________________ 73 Type 181
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79445 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:15 am Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Cusser wrote: |
Does anyone use a copper crush washer with these? |
Not needed if its a taper thread. _________________ Glenn
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Don Jones Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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This is how i ran the oil temp wire. I had it previously going to my oil filter adapter so i just continued it along the full-flow lines (insulated for lines) under engine to sender.
If you look closely you'll see that i use a small "L" shape bracket attachment to engine block.
My sender uses the spade connector. |
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: oil temp sensor install |
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Very neat and tidy! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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