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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: rebuilt lacks power |
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I have a rebuilt engine in my 61' bus, engine runs good but seems really doggy on hills.
here are the specs:
61' bus,
* big nut tranny , unknown gearing
Singleport 1600, rebuilt by Bob Donalds (RIP) rebuilt heads, dual relief case (AS) , doghouse oil cooler, alternator, 30/31 and an 009.
jetting is a 130 main I think I started with.
timing on the 009 set to 28 at full advance.
about 400 miles on the engine at this time.
runs smooth, no oil leaks but it just has about the same (lack) of power as the old unknown GEX did up the hills.
Any advice on what to check or double check?
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Erik G Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13546 Location: Tejas!
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rusbus Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 790 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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If it were me, I would start by figuring out the gearing in the trans. You can easily compute the final drive ratio by jacking up one tire, making a chalk mark on the tire, and one on the crank pulley. Count the rotations of the wheel per rotations of the pulley and divide by two (since one wheel is stationary). Maybe you have a freeway flier with really high gearing. |
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Did Bob use his special low compression heads?
I know they did not put out the power of stock heads.
He like the lower comp head as he thought the engine ran cooler and lasted longer. |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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numbers from the compression test.
I did it with the engine cold because I didn't want galled up plugs.
#1 - 120
#2 - 120
#3 - 105
#4 - 130
a little bit of a bummer there, I wonder if I overheated it.
plugs looked normal though.
more diagnostics needed I guess |
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krusher Samba Member

Joined: September 24, 2002 Posts: 7662 Location: europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried total advance of 30 and 32 as a test, and what gas grade are you using? _________________ (06:31:07) RoachGhia: "i drink dick way too fast" |
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quartermilecamel Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:31 am Post subject: |
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105 on #3....valve adjustment? _________________ Waiting for santa to drop off funky green. I can wish can't I???? |
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I would double check your valve adjust for sure! A couple hundred miles after the break in.......everythings expanding and contracting for the the first time as a fresh unit |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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that was after valve adjustment!
but I will double check it.
yes, I did try 30-32. In fact, I think that is where I was. |
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krusher Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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iamdonquixote wrote: |
that was after valve adjustment!
but I will double check it.
yes, I did try 30-32. In fact, I think that is where I was. |
So you tried 30 and 32 were either any better, and i also asked what grade fuel your using. _________________ (06:31:07) RoachGhia: "i drink dick way too fast" |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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no, advanced timing didn't seem to help.
using 93 octane but its the %10 ethanol stuff since thats all you can get in Massachusetts. |
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2Pack Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just throwing out some other ideas:
- Choke not opening fully due to incorrect adjustment.
- Throttle not open fully (or close) when gas pedal is at floor.
- Power fuel system in carb is clogged or restricted.
- Brakes dragging slightly.
And the worst one:
- Nothing is wrong with the engine. _________________ Please buy my Treasure |
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krusher Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:55 am Post subject: |
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iamdonquixote wrote: |
no, advanced timing didn't seem to help.
using 93 octane but its the %10 ethanol stuff since thats all you can get in Massachusetts. |
A higher octane is harder to ignite so needs more advance. I run 87 in my bus with no pinging or high head temps and 32 degrees advance.
I tried a tank of 89 on a road trip and lost 2mpg.
As an experiment next time your empty try 2 gallons of 87 and some more advance. Also check your plugs, are they black are you running rich?
93 and lack of advance = hot engine. _________________ (06:31:07) RoachGhia: "i drink dick way too fast" |
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Stanagon Samba Member

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