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splitpartsunlimited
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: Electronic 6volt "D" regulator |
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Here are some pics of my last product soon to be released ,
it is a solid state , servo controlled 6 volt "D" regulator
enjoy
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john7
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how much will they be?
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splitpartsunlimited
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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costs have not been evaluated yet , but i will try to keep it as low as possible , i believe they will cost about the same price (if not lower) than the star coil .
bosch condensers will follow soon , so forget about tired and stressed distributor condensers .....same look , top performance
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sunroof
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I want to see the schematic.
Don |
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splitpartsunlimited
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sorry , but this is a joint venture with an engineer from "INTI " (national institute of industrial technology) and diagrams are not available to the public .
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splitjunkie
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looks nice.
Are you just going to do them in 6 volt or will there be a 12 volt version as well?
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splitpartsunlimited
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i may offer a 12 volt version as well , but i am working on the 6volt unit first
Ricardo
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sunroof
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I still want to see the schematic.
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splitjunkie
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I still want to see the schematic.
Don |
You can keep asking but I don't think he is going to let you see it.
Why should he?
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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I still want to see the schematic.
Don |
You can keep asking but I don't think he is going to let you see it.
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I agree a schematic should not be expected. However I do believe that for such a part, test data, or a test report should be made available and perhaps that is the root of what "sunroof" is after; some validation of the design.
As some of you know, I started down the road of making a solid state D and actually have a working prototype. But in the work that I did with it, I had not yet verified a working circuit on my test bench.
A D reg needs to do 3 things:
1) Regulate the voltage out of the generator to a level tha twill charge the battery properly.
2) Provide reverse current protection such that when the gen is not turning, the battery will not attempt to spin the generator like an electric motor, thereby depleting the battery.
3) Provide overcurrent protection to insure that too much current (21.67 amps for a 130 watt gen) is not pulled from the generator.
The last one is the most critical actually. Failing in this area will cause the destruction of the gen should the load become too great (such as with a badly depleted battery) and may cause a fire in the engine bay. The gen overheats, and its windings unsolder themselves, hopefully before any wires start glowing. Not good.
I discussed my circuit and its components with Ricardo and will likely never have the time to produce these parts with proper testing. Its sounds like he was well on his way to a good product when last we talked. But I too would want to see test data before I ran such a repro in my splits.
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splitpartsunlimited
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don`t worry , my regs will cumpliment the 3 points John described .
it will also have a 25 amp fuse protection
ricardo
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onetofixit
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: update? |
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Anything new on this project? I've heard 6 volt regulators are no longer available? Is this true? Mine is still working for now but I'm a bit concerned what I will do ultimately when I need to replace it. I want to keep it 6V. I don't mind converting to solid state and would prefer it look original if practical to do so.
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splitpartsunlimited
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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the 6volt solid state regulator is a reality , it is under trials at my own split now .
i have driven more than 1200 miles in it since last october and electronics works like a champ ....
FYI.
it is completely fool proof , and current / voltage limited , it will not deliver more than 21.7 amps or more than 7.15 volts , whatever the cond of the battery is .
generator output power will always be 130 w , although it could deliver more power for some time
headlights on will make the battery load 6.85 v
my regulator electronics will even allow you to start a car pushing it and with the battery completely dead , although it is not recommended to push a split from the back !!! 
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type117
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: 6V regulator |
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Hello,
Will this regulator also work on the later 6V versions with a 180W generator?
Will it be possible to put the later cover on it or will you provide both models (D-shape and later model) ?
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splitpartsunlimited
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It will work with some minor mods made by me , what later regulator are you talking about ??
Ricardo
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It will work with some minor mods made by me , what later regulator are you talking about ??
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later 180 oval generator for example.... i made this conversion, later generator, and early regulator on it ...
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type117
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:45 am Post subject: 6V regulator |
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I mean the generator LJ/REG 180/6/2500 L3 (or VW number 113 903 021C) in combination with the regulator RS/TAA 180/6/4 (or VW number 113 903 801C).
The original regulator RS/TAA 180/6/4 closing current is 5.5 - 6.8V
opening current 7.4 - 8.1V
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johnshenry
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:51 am Post subject: Re: 6V regulator |
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I mean the generator LJ/REG 180/6/2500 L3 (or VW number 113 903 021C) in combination with the regulator RS/TAA 180/6/4 (or VW number 113 903 801C).
The original regulator RS/TAA 180/6/4 closing voltage is 5.5 - 6.8V
opening voltage7.4 - 8.1V
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Fixed it for ya. 
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splitpartsunlimited
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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What external shape ?? Pics??
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type117
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: regulator 6V |
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Here some pics.
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