Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
32 pdsit on a 1300
Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Voiden
Samba Member


Joined: January 04, 2006
Posts: 31
Location: Sweden
Voiden is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:15 am    Post subject: 32 pdsit on a 1300 Reply with quote

I have a 1971 1302 with 1300 dual port engine.
The engine is in good condition, but the carburetor is worn out.

I have 2x sets of 32 pdsit, so I thought to install a kit on my engine together with 1:25 rockers and 009 with Ignitor.

How will this be?
I'm not looking for a racing engine, more high MPG engine.
It's my daily driver.

Someone who has done this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
krusher
Samba Member


Joined: September 24, 2002
Posts: 7662
Location: europe
krusher is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be very good, if you jet and tune it correctly.
_________________
(06:31:07) RoachGhia: "i drink dick way too fast"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dawie
Samba Member


Joined: July 27, 2008
Posts: 218
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
dawie is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The twin PDSIT series carbs works well on the late 1300 dual port engine.
I have tried both the 24mm venturies (from the 1600 type3) and the 23mm (from the 1500 type 3) on the 1300. The 23mm has better low rpm performance and uses less fuel. They obviously have to be re-jetted.

If fuel consumption is of any concern to you, DO NOT use the 009. The svda distributor that came with your engine is much better. On mine, i have recurved the centrifugal advance by adding a little weight to the mechanism.
This means that advance is now in at slightly lower rpms, like the 009, and it still has vacuum advance.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Luftgekült
Samba Member


Joined: December 30, 2007
Posts: 388
Location: Canary Islands, Spain
Luftgekült is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the linkage???
_________________
'71 VW 1302 1300cc in progress....
'72 VW 1302S 2109cc
'84 Passat Variant GL 1.6TD
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Voiden
Samba Member


Joined: January 04, 2006
Posts: 31
Location: Sweden
Voiden is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, then I buy a new svda distributor.
My engine has dual vacuum.

What jets should I start with and have as a starting point.
Here in Sweden fuel jets is available in sizes 112,5 to 170.
Idle is available in sizes 45-65.
They cost $ 10 each, and I do not buy too many sizes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Voiden
Samba Member


Joined: January 04, 2006
Posts: 31
Location: Sweden
Voiden is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luftgekült wrote:
What about the linkage???


I plan to use this linkage.
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-C10-5993
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
dawie
Samba Member


Joined: July 27, 2008
Posts: 218
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
dawie is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picture of linkage is not clear, but if it is meant for 2 identical carbs, it may not work for the symmetrical PDSIT carbs. Maybe you can modify the type 3 linkage. If you can find some of the taller aftermarket manifolds it will be better, if not the short type 3 ones should do. PDSIT carbs are very sensitive to the length of piping to the aircleaner. If you plan to use small twin aircleaners directly on top of carbs, then for a start air correction jets will have to come down drastically to compensate. Probably to around 130. If it's still lean at the top end, even try go as low as 110 on your air-correction jet.

If you use the 23mm venturies from the 1500, main jet could be around 112.5 or 115. If 24mm (from 1600 type 3), then 115 to 117.5

Your original dual vacuum advance distributor can he used as well. Just leave the retard side disconnected. You can even use a vacuum advance canister from a different vehicle on your standard distributor. In some countries the early 80's Golf 1800 GTI (called "Rabbit" in the US), had a single vacuum canister which has more advance which comes in earlier. This fits the standard Bosch distributor.

The best distributor to use (my humble opinion) is from the 1900 wasserboxer engine. Use this complete with it's electronic module, wiring harness and ignition coil. Far more reliable than Pertronics conversion types, and much higher spark output than aftermarket types which lacks variable dwell control and are limited to high impedance coils like the blue coil. The wasseboxer distributor (like your original one), can be recurved and a different vacuum canister fitted.

Remember that the 1300 dual port was never sold in the USA, therefore advice may be limited.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Joel
Samba Member


Joined: September 04, 2006
Posts: 11099
Location: NSW Australia
Joel is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dawie wrote:
Maybe you can modify the type 3 linkage. If you can find some of the taller aftermarket manifolds it will be better, if not the short type 3 ones should do. PDSIT carbs are very sensitive to the length of piping to the aircleaner.


I did all that about 8 years ago.

I ended up modifying the stock type3 short manifolds to work, tried taller Kad and weber ones and none of them would fit with the carb.
I have a Scat Swivel linkage pretty much identical to the pic above but I couldn't get it to operate the carbs satisfactorily.

Keeping heat was one of the biggest causes of problems.
But in the end a stock type3 linkage with alot of modding worked the best.

On a stock 1600 with a standard single vac diz it used to average between 26-28mpg with a mix of city and highway driving.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2024, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.